(February 20, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Lek Wrote:(February 20, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then what use is your god and its bible?
Because we don't obtain salvation by being moral people.
Yet you were the one who said:
(February 20, 2014 at 8:27 pm)Lek Wrote: I wouldn't normally kill a baby now because the bible tells me not to murder.
So if you wouldn't "normally" act in such a way because the book tells you not to, yet your - and my - independent sense of morality would prevent us from acting in that way, that would mean that the pronouncements in the book are redundant; because you and I, believer and non, already come with these moral sensibilities inbuilt as standard. And since you take the bible as "his word", that leaves your god out in the cold.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'