Any Vegetarians/Vegans here?

[bennyboy]

You know what is really stupid of you bennyboy? You are arguing from the point of tween age angst against people who (no matter which way you cut it) have had 30+ years of this sort of debate.

I don't even know what you are talking about with this, so I'm not able to respond to it.

I also notice that you have not challenge me regarding the market niche for "vegetarianism" causing animal "suffering" or is that ok for you and you are happy to be a hypocrite?

I'm not sure why those words are in quotation marks. Are you refuting that vegetarians are really vegetarians, or that animal suffering is really suffering? You've made at least 2 new threads, and dozens of links, and I'm still waiting for you to take a specific position. What idea, among the hundreds that I could infer from your own comments as well as your links, are you expecting me to challenge, or accusing me of being unwilling to challenge?

Your arguments are nothing but emotional manipulation and striving to thrust guilt onto those who don't share your world view. Pathetic!

This statement is demonstrably false. Not only have I discussed the practical issues and downsides of vegetarianism, and shown a willingness to engage in the debate you suggested and then changed your mind about, I think you'll find that I've come out in favor of, or at least understanding of, the meat-eating position on several occasions when discussing dietary pragmatism and issues of economy (and, in the past, pest control). Since in our private tells, I specifically said that we should look at factual data-- crop reports, etc.-- It is dishonest for you to say my arguments are "nothing but emotional manipulation." You have recent and unambiguous evidence to the contrary in your own possession.

Are you so enamoured of the dogma as per PETA et al that you will sell yourself?

You seem, since PETA have been demonized as nutcases in this thread, to be attempting to dismiss my moral arguments by a kind of ad hom by association. I think if you're being honest, you should look at many of my arguments, and see that I'm radically different in my outlook than they are. The only thing I have in common with them is that I'm vegetarian, and so are they.