What I am refuting bennyboy is your teenage angst regarding suffering. Are you Buddhist or Jainism ?
You blather on about animal "suffering" yet seem happy for such "suffering" to occur in the cause of vegetarianism to the point where other long term vegetarians have had enough of your whinging.
You also neglect the fact that the big four industries are pandering to you and your pathetic idealism to create the very thing your "ethical" choice is supposedly to prevent and you seem quite happy with this hypocrisy. Not everyone can do a vegetarian diet. I have been consistent with this and I will no condemn anyone who finds it suitable for their particular metabolism ....but I will call bullshit for the pseudo-religious vocalisations that you and your cohorts want to impose on ALL PEOPLE just because YOU think this is something that EVERYONE SHOULD ADOPT (aka religious belief that vegetarianism is much more ethical than omnivoreism) or is that why I have to suffer protein enriched flour (that I don't need because of a balanced omnivorous diet) and the fact the companies like Monsantos have these "roundup ready soy beans" that they need to recoup the research $$$$$$ from?
And what of palm oil? We used to be able to get the fats necessary to produce soap from animal fats... But NO say the vegetarians, you can get it from palm oil! Yippie! So now we have the habitat of untold Indonesian species being wiped out because of vegetarian preferences, not to mention the displacement of thousands of people just to keep you "ethical Veggies" happy? And then give you something to whinge about?
Can you not see you are being exploited? Check out greenpeace for more information regarding palm oil.
You blather on about animal "suffering" yet seem happy for such "suffering" to occur in the cause of vegetarianism to the point where other long term vegetarians have had enough of your whinging.
You also neglect the fact that the big four industries are pandering to you and your pathetic idealism to create the very thing your "ethical" choice is supposedly to prevent and you seem quite happy with this hypocrisy. Not everyone can do a vegetarian diet. I have been consistent with this and I will no condemn anyone who finds it suitable for their particular metabolism ....but I will call bullshit for the pseudo-religious vocalisations that you and your cohorts want to impose on ALL PEOPLE just because YOU think this is something that EVERYONE SHOULD ADOPT (aka religious belief that vegetarianism is much more ethical than omnivoreism) or is that why I have to suffer protein enriched flour (that I don't need because of a balanced omnivorous diet) and the fact the companies like Monsantos have these "roundup ready soy beans" that they need to recoup the research $$$$$$ from?
And what of palm oil? We used to be able to get the fats necessary to produce soap from animal fats... But NO say the vegetarians, you can get it from palm oil! Yippie! So now we have the habitat of untold Indonesian species being wiped out because of vegetarian preferences, not to mention the displacement of thousands of people just to keep you "ethical Veggies" happy? And then give you something to whinge about?
Can you not see you are being exploited? Check out greenpeace for more information regarding palm oil.
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