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An unanswerable question
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(February 22, 2014 at 6:39 pm)Lek Wrote: John's gospel is full of references to Jesus being divine and to salvation based on faith in Christ.

Yes, decades after Paul's writings.

Quote:Although we all share in the responsibility for Christ's death...

An unsubstantiated claim and, frankly, bullshit.

Quote: the Jews definitely were the immediate bad guys, calling for his crucifixion.

Allegedly, Lek -- allegedly. It's not as if the authors of the Gospels, writing long after the incidents they claim to report, didn't have good pragmatic (or cynical) reasons to distance themselves from the Jews.

Quote:Transubstantiation was a much later doctrine developed by the catholic church.

True enough. But then again the germ of that doctrine is to be found in Paul.

Quote:Jesus himself spoke of himself as a king whose kingdom was "not of this earth" as attested to in the gospels. Jesus also referred to the other "lost sheep" who he also came for.

Allegedly. And gospels? Plural? Are you sure about that?
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