Before we continue this, lets put this out here first:
Now then:
But it's not evidence for dogma in atheism. And yet you fail to realize that.
If it is, then show me what can be applied to atheism. How does the age of the earth have any bearing on the belief in gods? Or evolution? Some atheistic groups believe in Transpermia, I don't.
I did no such thing. Where did I do that? I just said that if some atheist holds these thing to be true, that needn't apply to all atheists. Which for a dogma it would need to be.
I'm sure it does, so what? Just because someone uses the ToE to point out that it's evidence is much more compelling than a 2000 year old book does not mean that every atheist needs to accept the ToE. It still says nothing about accepting evolution as truth to be a tennent of atheistic dogma, in fact I know several atheists who do not accept the ToE at all.
Even if that is true, that still has no bearing on the belief or non belief in gods and is therefore no dogma of atheism.
And?
You have not even seen flippant yet. And what dogma would that be?
I would treat all misinformation with scorn. When something is so obviously flawed what other choice is there then to treat it for the garbage it is?
I've made no statement about the faith of any individual, including yours.
And what would it be that I accuse you of, apart from ignorant about atheism?
I know you claim that, but if that site is what you base your claim on, consider that claim rejected. Now either provide some evidence for your claim or admit that you can't.
Wikipedia Wrote:Dogma is the established belief or doctrine held by a religion, ideology or any kind of organization: it is authoritative and not to be disputed, doubted or diverged from.
Now then:
(March 23, 2010 at 12:13 pm)RedFish Wrote: I have come to no conclusion, I was pointing to evidence that atheism has dogma.
But it's not evidence for dogma in atheism. And yet you fail to realize that.
Quote:If even one of those things can be applied to atheism, which I believe one or more can,
If it is, then show me what can be applied to atheism. How does the age of the earth have any bearing on the belief in gods? Or evolution? Some atheistic groups believe in Transpermia, I don't.
Quote:and you yourself just conceded as much, then atheism is dogmatic.
I did no such thing. Where did I do that? I just said that if some atheist holds these thing to be true, that needn't apply to all atheists. Which for a dogma it would need to be.
Quote:http://atheistforums.org/thread-3113.html
This thread contains numerous references to evolution.
I'm sure it does, so what? Just because someone uses the ToE to point out that it's evidence is much more compelling than a 2000 year old book does not mean that every atheist needs to accept the ToE. It still says nothing about accepting evolution as truth to be a tennent of atheistic dogma, in fact I know several atheists who do not accept the ToE at all.
Quote: This may be a consensus, it cannot be proved fact.
Even if that is true, that still has no bearing on the belief or non belief in gods and is therefore no dogma of atheism.
Quote:Belief in God, for me, deals in only one thing.
And?
Quote:Your flippant response demonstrates your unwillingness to deal with a fact, preferring your Dogma.
You have not even seen flippant yet. And what dogma would that be?
Quote:You treat my information with scorn,
I would treat all misinformation with scorn. When something is so obviously flawed what other choice is there then to treat it for the garbage it is?
Quote:thus revealing your true level of understanding of Faith in an individual.
I've made no statement about the faith of any individual, including yours.
Quote:I deny nothing about Islam, or Christianity. I do not claim to be either, therefore you are guilty of the offence you accuse me of.
And what would it be that I accuse you of, apart from ignorant about atheism?
Quote:I claim nothing about the similarities between atheists, merely that atheism has Dogma.
I know you claim that, but if that site is what you base your claim on, consider that claim rejected. Now either provide some evidence for your claim or admit that you can't.
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Leo van Miert
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Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
