RE: Ok I admit it
March 3, 2014 at 5:24 pm
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm by JesusLover1.)
(March 3, 2014 at 5:19 pm)xpastor Wrote:(March 3, 2014 at 5:08 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: He still gave us the choice. He just knows in advance that some will choose hell.Be more precise in your writing.
Does knowing in advance that some will choose hell mean God knows that 18.79% of the population will choose hell? (Like Mr. Spock's estimates of probability in Star Trek)
Or does it mean that he knows in advance some persons will choose hell, say, xpastor and Minimalist and Esquilax?
If the latter, you're into predestination, and it means there was no free will at all. God created them to be damned.
In any case, who ever said, "Gee, I'd like to burn in hell for all eternity"?
Nope, they just said, "I don't see any evidence of God, I don't see any evidence of heaven, I don't see ay evidence of hell. I guess I'll just get on with my life."
But he still let's them make the choice. He still let's them experience life, and it's their fault that when God laid the conditions out they choose hell.
And they choose hell by rejecting God. Seriously, when you're being judged by God and he says "All you had to do was believe", won't it be so painful to know how little it could have took. Please be saved before it's too late, I BEG of you!
(March 3, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote:(March 3, 2014 at 5:18 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: But God's gift is not taking our money. He gives us eternal life, eternal glory. If people choose not to accept it, it's there own problem. You can choose the being of all good, God, or the being of all evil, Satan. The choice is up to the person. But God has no gun to your head, and his gift is wonderful.
Stop taking everything so literally. The money is your belief, and the gun is the threat of hell.
Believe in me or go to hell for ever.
Yes but God's glory is not comparable to having your money stolen. Theft is bad, a personal relationship with God is the greatest thing ever.
(March 3, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Tonus Wrote:(March 3, 2014 at 5:08 pm)JesusLover1 Wrote: Man's choice.Errr... yeah. God gives man free will, which is the freedom to act of his own volition. Then he punishes him with the worst possible punishment if he exercises that free will. Either man has to 'choose' only the actions that god commands, or he is punished with a near-incalculable severity.
It turns out that free will isn't very free at all.
God doesn't punish them. They choose to deny heaven, and the only other option is the devil's Hell.
