Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: September 30, 2024, 12:12 am

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 1 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Why did God murder children for making fun of a bald guy?
#89
RE: Why did God murder children for making fun of a bald guy?
(March 3, 2014 at 6:56 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: ]The excessively effuse verbiage and unnecessarily torturous extension of sentence structure may not have delivered the impression of intellectual capacity and veracity of expressive intention which one may suspect the author desired. The adage that "the medium is the message" is not one which bears close examination, the message is the message and the loquacious and needless obfuscation of a simple concept behind pretentious prose does nothing to distract from the core inadequacy of the argument.

Sometimes people accuse others of pretentiousness when their own pretensions are slighted. Every word was chosen for its meaning. If there is any expression that seems obscure to you, or if you are unused to metaphysical language, then you need only ask for clarification, and it will be provided. Defects of language are acknowledged, but the aim is always clearness and accuracy of expression. If metaphysical language sounds pretentious to you, it is only because you are unused to such language. If you don't like the choice of words then suggest alternative expressions; do not assume that people are motivated by your intellectual vanities.

Quote:The hypothesising of the alternative textual meaning in which the author indulges, even if based in sound hermeneutical principles, does nothing to detract from the moral turpitude of the core precept, that is the wanton and needlessly violent slaying of young people when equally effective and less terminal options were readily available.

Two things can be said to that. The first: to accuse God of cruelty, is like blaming nature for the law of gravity, or accusing a triangle of immorality for having four sides instead of three. It is to reduce something grounded on the ontological level, to the moral and psychological, and thus to make man the measure of reality. Justice is simply in the nature of things. It may seem 'cruel' to the effete sensibilities of late modernity, but justice is a causal operation rooted in the law of equilibrium. To say reality, is to include justice.

The second point is that God is beyond human good and evil: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" (Isaiah 45:7). God "separated the light from the darkness" (i.e. good from evil). Jesus "came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"; that is, he came to set good against evil. But the divine substance itself is beyond all dualism. To abolish dualism would be to destroy existence.

Quote: Furthermore the extended meaning which cognitive dissonance demands that he extrapolated to the naked and self evident meaning of the text is inconsistent with the use of language in the passage which clearly states that the youths were mocking elisha, not threatening him.

"Go up" is an idiomatic expression. As such it derives its meaning from its cultural associatioms, not the naked and literal meaning of its constituent elements. This is not a matter of controversy, but the determined atheist is so afraid of finding truth in things that he must confine his understanding to the superficial level. If he reads the Bible, it is to uncover its faults, and one of the ways he does this is by applying a mechanical and ill-intentioned literalism to every passage - even to idiomatic expressions. You should read everthing honestly and with an open heart. Do not be deceived by your own vanities; aim only for the truth, and nothing less.

The true intention of the mob is also revealed by the fact that God destroyed them, since God is justice itself, not merely an agency of justice: to say justness, is to say God. When wrong-doers are destroyed or "punished" by God, it is a symbolic illustration of immanent justice. Reality is just.

Quote:Or we can talk like normal human beings

Take no thought of appearing normal or abnormal in the eyes of man. The vanities of this world mean nothing in the light of truth.

Quote:instead of pretentious pricks who think access to Google thesaurus adds weight to a dodgy argument Wink

The mind is the only thesaurus one ever needs. Let the truth speak and the words will come of themselves. No man can take credit for the truth. As for argument, instead ask questions. The truth can only be found in yourself. Knowledge is the reflection of the Real upon itself, which is act of interiorisation, not argument.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Why did God murder children for making fun of a bald guy? - by Urizen - March 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Did God play peek-a-boo? LinuxGal 36 3895 March 16, 2023 at 10:09 pm
Last Post: Ferrocyanide
  [Serious] For former Christians only, why did you leave your faith? Jehanne 159 16841 January 16, 2023 at 7:36 am
Last Post: h4ym4n
  Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse zebo-the-fat 1 1205 September 2, 2021 at 6:29 pm
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims zwanzig 177 23464 June 9, 2021 at 11:14 am
Last Post: John 6IX Breezy
  Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers' zebo-the-fat 25 2474 October 8, 2020 at 7:11 pm
Last Post: no one
  Telling children that they are going to hell is abusive? Fake Messiah 104 11669 February 9, 2020 at 2:46 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  Catholic priests jailed for abusing deaf children zebo-the-fat 14 2925 November 26, 2019 at 8:12 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Why did the Jews lie about Jesus? Fake Messiah 65 7329 March 28, 2019 at 5:32 pm
Last Post: Aliza
  Did Jesus call the Old Testament God the Devil, a Murderer and the Father of Lies? dude1 51 9995 November 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  The Irish Are Making Up For Lost Time Minimalist 5 742 October 28, 2018 at 7:30 am
Last Post: Jehanne



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)