RE: Ok I admit it
March 7, 2014 at 2:44 am
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2014 at 2:53 am by fr0d0.)
(March 6, 2014 at 9:05 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(March 6, 2014 at 8:20 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If it was Gods will that Christian families have greater health than non Christian families, then that would be the case. Your problem lies not with the statistics, but with knowing Gods will.
The problem with scientific tests of prayer is that they're testing for an unknowable result.
I don't have a problem.
Nonexistent beings don't usually have the time in their busy schedule of not existing, to have a will.
So tell me, just how does your god manifest in reality? Give me some examples and I'll come up with scientifically viable tests to test for effects from his manifestations.
You have no problem with prayer. Great.
You are a manifestation of God. Do you exist?
(March 6, 2014 at 9:06 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If you pray according to God's will, it gets done.
If you don't pray, God's will gets done.
If you pray against God's will, it doesn't get done.
If you don't pray, what god doesn't will, doesn't get done.
Did I miss an option, Frodo?
No that's all perfectly correct.
Of course the answers could be different. Not praying can't change Gods will, where praying can. You will always know Gods will by what happens.
(March 6, 2014 at 9:59 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: People believe in God's will until something bad happens to them. For instance, a guy is walking down the street and someone robs him. He gets angry and vengeful. But the robber was praying that God would send a guy his way with a wallet full of money so that he could get it to feed his hungry kids.
The sun shines on the righteous and the unrighteous.
If your belief was so shallow that you you only believed when things were going your own way, your belief wouldn't be worth anything.
