(March 8, 2014 at 4:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Well I agree with what you said except I do believe we have value already but we increase or decrease based on how we act and except with our lives having actually value if God or spiritual realm exists or not. It's true Atheists can be better humans than people who are religious or spiritual but it doesn't prove your last two lines.
How does there being a god or a spiritual realm make life have meaning it wouldn't have if there weren't? Do you believe that you will exist as a spirit forever? Is that what gives things meaning, permanence? I don't see how what you're proposing offers an answer as to where meaning comes from. So value is "in your spirit" instead of in your brain; how does that make it any more "real" ?
![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg)