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Smut for Smut
RE: Smut for Smut
Please allow me to provide the obligatory ex claimer Tav requires.

I think, in my opinion, that a good symbol to describe America is the symbol of the word of fascism. This is an opinion of mine, I can't provide "evidence" that it is true or untrue.

You're like a broken record. You seem to be able to have grown up conversations with most everyone else here, but I get your best side. Every sentence I write you demand evidence, even though I have refused to provide it so far. Keep asking for "evidence" of my opinions, and then when I refuse, strutting around the room. It is getting old fast. If you disagree, you disagree, but stop with this whole "evidence" charade.

Quote:Wow. You really have no idea how the Federal Reserve actually works. I'd refer you to a site, but it's easier if you just took an Intro to Macroeconomics class.
I have studies Economics for many, many years. It is important to me to understand the systems in control of my life. I would never take a course though, are you kidding? Take a course on MacroEconomics. I had a biddy who took Eco at UofO a few years ago. It was great. He would come into my work and I would ask him if they had brought up Fractional Reserve Policy, and he looked dumbfounded. This was during the bailout, and so called financial collapse, so I asked if that changed any of his teachers lesson plans, that the system seemed to be collapsing as he was learning about it. Still dumbfounded. Tobin Tax, they never mentioned it. He would come in with these stupid ideas about 'creating markets for the resources of the third world' and shit, obviously spouting whatever bullshit his prof taught him from the Austrian school. And now we have Barky, a student of Chicago's Friedman School of Economics. I know plenty about economics, thank you, and not taking a course on it was how I learned so much.

Please share your opinion with me if you will. Is the Federal Reserve not private? Do they not literally "print money out of air"? Since they stopped counting M3, certainly it is very, very unrestricted. Is not the America Greenback one of the leading foreign owned currencies in the world? Is not the American dollar the default currency when dealing in oil and hockey players? Is not Iraq threatening to switch to the Euro not one of the REAL causes for the invasion? Oh, yeah, Saddam was in on 9/11. I forgot. Please, if you feel that I am incorrect enlighten me. You seem to know everything for certain so far.

Quote:Fascism is the direct OPPOSITE of what you state America to be. Fascism does not condone or endorse private enterprise and frowns upon individualism.
If you think modern America endorses private enterprise and individualism, I think you might be living in some other country by accident. The same America where they invented the great economic stimuli that is paying farmers not to grow shit? How much money is spent on stupid subsidies every year? I think all those subsidies may actually not be in the Free Market model. And individualism? Everyone eats at the exact same McDonalds, coast to coast. You guys gave Citigroup $415 Billion, and got back $8.8 Billion. And the headlines call it a profit...

I am saying that America is fascist precisely because I know that means it is neither free nor individual. Again, if you disagree, that is welcome, but I know what the fuck I am saying.

Quote:Evidence?
That America is a Corporate Entity? How many people on the FDA are ex-(or current) Monsanto employees? How many of the Treasury offices are held by Federal Reserve employees? Haliburton gets a no-bid contract that only says 'for every dollar you waste on anything, we will give you a dollar and a bit back of tax money'. It was called Cost Plus Contract. So the vice president is allowed to coerce his country into going to war so that he and his friends make a ton of money bombing a place, and then make a ton more fixing it back up. In both instances it is just robbing tax funds, with a few extra steps for posterity. Is any of that evidence?

Quote:Globalization is a natural function of the market's technological advancements and a direct result of comparative and competitive advantage between countries with similar resources.
Ummm. First of all economic systems do not have Natural functions, they are not alive. The doublespeak and through the teeth bullshit of this point you made shows that you picked it up from some deceptive fucks, and I wonder why you are motivated to support their ideas that don't serve you or I. And the globalism is not a function (natural or not) that is inevitable and all positive and rainbows and shit. Globalism and Free Trade was the big promise that if we tried out this new model, that was thought up, not evolved, we would all have more wealth. And most of us were doubtful of this. So now it's been about 15 years, and so far the rich have gotten a ton richer, and the poor a ton poorer, and the middle class is now the lower class. So all in all, it's been a great success. If it's inception was about making millionaires billionaires. And then try to explain away the people on the Niger Delta people hanging themselves from the Shell plants for stealing their water. Explain the Zapatistas rising up and reclaiming their land in conjunction with the passing of NAFTA. Those people don't get it. Or the over 100,000 farmers in India that have killed themselves over Monsanto's game of two card monte they pulled on them. They are just stupid and don't understand economics.

Keep defending a system that makes it literally and mathematically true that it is cheaper to grow peaches in Indonesia and ship them to North America. That fact alone means that the economic system is stupid, is unrealistic. It can not be cheaper on resources to grow the food in Indonesia and ship it here. But it is. So there is some serious manipulation of the markets to acheive this phenomenon. And they promised us that those savings would be passed onto the consumer. But they are not.

We were s'posed to be free form work, and have flying cars. Robots taking our jobs was supposed to be a positive.

I know more than enough about modern economics and it's flaws. It's all carrots and sticks, but the stick is incredibly long and the carrot is ethereal. And when you figure it out they just hit you with the stick.

Fucking economics.
-Pip
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Smut for Smut - by Eilonnwy - March 5, 2010 at 10:25 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by leo-rcc - March 5, 2010 at 10:34 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by divermike - April 1, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - April 1, 2010 at 7:27 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Tiberius - April 1, 2010 at 8:07 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by leo-rcc - April 2, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by downbeatplumb - March 5, 2010 at 12:49 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 5, 2010 at 12:59 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by downbeatplumb - March 5, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 5, 2010 at 3:04 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 5, 2010 at 3:39 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 5, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 5, 2010 at 4:43 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by leo-rcc - March 5, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 6, 2010 at 12:03 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2010 at 7:00 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 7, 2010 at 10:32 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 7, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 7, 2010 at 5:46 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by leo-rcc - March 7, 2010 at 2:29 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 9, 2010 at 9:37 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 9, 2010 at 11:29 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - March 10, 2010 at 1:24 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 10, 2010 at 5:53 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 10, 2010 at 8:05 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 10, 2010 at 10:44 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by downbeatplumb - March 10, 2010 at 2:02 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Tiberius - March 10, 2010 at 2:07 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - March 10, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 10, 2010 at 10:17 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 10, 2010 at 11:24 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by padraic - March 11, 2010 at 1:27 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 12, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by LEDO - March 13, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 13, 2010 at 8:18 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 14, 2010 at 3:10 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 14, 2010 at 4:09 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 14, 2010 at 5:30 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by downbeatplumb - March 14, 2010 at 11:08 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 14, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 14, 2010 at 6:27 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 14, 2010 at 1:36 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 15, 2010 at 2:31 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 17, 2010 at 12:57 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 17, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - March 17, 2010 at 10:44 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 18, 2010 at 1:32 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 18, 2010 at 8:02 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 25, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 25, 2010 at 3:33 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 18, 2010 at 8:57 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 22, 2010 at 12:38 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 19, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Thor - March 19, 2010 at 2:16 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - March 19, 2010 at 2:28 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Thor - March 22, 2010 at 11:41 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by downbeatplumb - March 22, 2010 at 2:02 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 23, 2010 at 1:44 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 25, 2010 at 8:42 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 30, 2010 at 7:08 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Dotard - March 30, 2010 at 8:08 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 25, 2010 at 9:27 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 25, 2010 at 10:46 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 27, 2010 at 7:03 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 27, 2010 at 9:46 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Thor - March 27, 2010 at 2:22 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 30, 2010 at 8:05 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 30, 2010 at 8:09 am
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Thor - March 30, 2010 at 10:51 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 30, 2010 at 11:49 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Violet - March 30, 2010 at 8:56 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 30, 2010 at 11:42 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 30, 2010 at 9:02 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - March 31, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by fr0d0 - March 31, 2010 at 3:30 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - March 31, 2010 at 9:23 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - April 1, 2010 at 1:57 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Tiberius - April 1, 2010 at 4:54 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - April 1, 2010 at 7:39 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Thor - April 1, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - April 1, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - April 1, 2010 at 3:29 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Tiberius - April 1, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by divermike - April 1, 2010 at 8:29 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Darwinian - April 1, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by divermike - April 1, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - April 1, 2010 at 9:48 pm
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RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - April 2, 2010 at 12:04 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by tavarish - April 2, 2010 at 9:06 am
RE: Smut for Smut - by Autumnlicious - April 2, 2010 at 5:39 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by Pippy - April 2, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: Smut for Smut - by padraic - April 2, 2010 at 11:31 pm
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