RE: The redneck strike again.
March 11, 2014 at 11:19 am
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2014 at 11:23 am by Bad Wolf.)
(March 11, 2014 at 9:47 am)enrico Wrote: As all addictions people tend to continue the use despite the consequences, and keep on deny that it is harmful.
According to George D Pamplona-Roger, M.D. in his book "Foods That Heal" -
"The stimulant hypoxanthine is responsible for the satisfying and stimulating effects of meat. It is similar in chemical formula and effect as caffeine.
It has been known since antiquity that those who regularly eat meat experience some degree of enervation when they are deprived of this food for some time. This sensation that "something is missing" always results from abruptly removing meat from the diet, even when it is replaced with plant foods and dietary supplements providing as much or even more protein and nutrients as meat.
He goes on to say, "that the enervation that some persons experience when they stop eating meat products is not due to a lack of its protein or other nutrients that some consider irreplaceable. It is due to a type of stimulant found in meat. Today it's known that the muscle cells of meat contain Hypoxanthine, which increases in concentration as the meat ages.
Hypoxanthine and other similar substances, such as inosinic acid and guanylic acid, are present in meat. They have a chemical structure similar to that of caffeine in coffee or the theobromine in cocoa, with similar effects. They are central nervous system stimulants. They are addictive.
Hypoxanthine explains the stimulating effect of meat and it's capacity to create a certain level of addiction, which manifests itself when meat is given up abruptly. Because of this, it is recommended that those wishing to replace meat with plant-based foods follow a transition diet to help avoid the effect of sudden deprivation.
George D. Pamplona-Roger, M.D., is a doctor of medicine and surgery at the University of Granada in Spain. He is a board-certified general and digestive surgeon, and a specialist in health education, UNED University, Spain. He is a member of the International Union of Food Science and Technology, Ontario, Canada, and a fellow in the Royal Microscopical Society, Oxford, England. After practicing his specialty for 15 years, Dr. Pamplona-Roger now focuses on medical research and health education. He has been published in many health journals, and has also written Encyclopedia of Foods and Their Healing Power; Encyclopedia of Medicinal Plants, and New Lifestyle.
You haven't actually explained how addiction works but whatever. Even without researching this stuff myself and just taking George D. Pamplona Roger at his word, this does not answer the point I was making. Although, according to this guy, meat is addictive like caffeine and chocolate, it has nothing to do with what we were discussing. I objected when you compared meat eating, to addiction to illicit drugs such as heroin etc. Addiction is addiction but not on the level you were implying. Try again.
(March 11, 2014 at 9:47 am)enrico Wrote: Here there are few interesting links that may open up your lock brains.
Good luck boy!
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/05/americas...he_planet/
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/13/460552...can-fix-it
http://marktassi.wordpress.com/2011/10/1...ugivore-2/
And 3 useless links. I have told you time and time again, the only evidence I will actually take is a peer-reviewed, scientific article, published in a journal.
Tell me, was this Pamplona-Rogers book, peer reviewed?
Just had a look on Amazon for his book and guess what?!!?!? Homeopathy! Nice try but no.
I've also had a brief look on google scholar and can't find is name on any relevant articles. Fail again....
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“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech