(March 13, 2014 at 7:36 pm)futilethewinds Wrote:(March 13, 2014 at 7:31 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: One thing that's helpful is having a Sponsor I can call when there is a craving. Also, it can be helpful talking to people about why we drink/use.That's nice, but the bottom line is your results will come from whether or not you truly want to stay clean/sober, and nothing anybody else does can change that. It would probably do you more good to speak to a psychiatrist or a psychologist about the reasons why you drink/use and work with him/her on resolving those issues than simply spilling your guts to random people.
There are people who were low life drunks living under a bridge who have 20 - 30+ years sober who can share how they did it.
I disagree. I have known some who succeeded on their own, but many more who had support of some kind.
12-Step programs are certainly not the only path to sobriety; they may not even be the best. But for many (most?) people, having the support and encouragement from others increases the chance of success.
I went to AA as an atheist and I'm still an atheist. The Steps can be done without any gods, they can be interpreted without any woo.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
