Why oh Why

[Chad32]

What we "deserve" is an eternity separated from Yahweh, according to the bible. Having a horrible week, then rising again to rule over everything is not a sacrifice. That's the equivalent of my cutting off my hand, then sewing it back together, and becoming king of the world for doing so. I've lost nothing substantial, besides having it cut off while I'm fully conscious and not using pain killers. No innocent person should ever stand in for the guilty, and no guilty person should ever be punished beyond their crime. infinite punishment for finite crime is as disproportionate as it gets. Not that christians agree on what hell is, any more than anything else in the book.

Surely you are not equating cutting off a hand and having it sewed back on to death and resurrection. That's like saying an ant is equal to humans.

GC

Yes, that's what I'm equating. I'm saying there was no real sacrifice. He didn't stay dead. He came back, returned to heaven, and is either ruling at the right hand of Yahweh, or is just a part of Yahweh. He was born, got to live longer than most people get to in this world, and had a really shitty week, then got to either return to where he was before he was born, or got an even better existence than his time on earth.

It was a publicity stunt that had little to no effect in the grand scheme of eternity.

Sacrificing yourself, to yourself, to save people from something you created, because of a curse you put on them, does not impress me.