RE: Mossad in Dubai
April 5, 2010 at 2:17 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2010 at 2:18 pm by AtheistPhil.)
(April 5, 2010 at 12:09 pm)TheMultiverseTheory Wrote: Correct you are, but on an instinctual level, there is that urge to kill and expand territory for the sake of extending the reach of your species.Not your species, but your group I think. Inside a same species witnessing killing for territory is common, even though close physical resemblance holds you back to a certain point from doing so.
Also, there is no instinctual urge to kill and expand territory. Those behaviors are direct consequences of the urge to survive and the existence of a limited environement.
(April 5, 2010 at 12:09 pm)TheMultiverseTheory Wrote: Incorrect. I'm talking about the Group Mentality of wildlife (including ourselves). You see when Hyenas pick off a weaker one or one that may have been from a different pack, or just looks different. This behavior is reflected in Human Society. It is instinctual to pick off those that look or seem different than you, to keep that Normality of Genetic Exchange. Hitler had the best example of this, he wanted his specific race to further their genetic "superiority", killing off those he felt different and inferior. It is the same way in the wild, and in Human Behavior. But Rational thought should tame this down, whereas Religion promotes such violent, primitive, and instinctual behavior.
What I meant was that "treat others as you would like yourself" is not instinctual since you said "instincts tell us to eradicate opposition that look or seem different to us."
Religion doesn't always promote or justify such instinctual behavior, the golden rule is in the Bible for example. And as I said Jainism is based on non-violence and non-coercion, so your statement is not valid for every religion.
(April 5, 2010 at 12:09 pm)TheMultiverseTheory Wrote: If you believe religion does not corrupt, then you should see the faces of the violent children of islam, the mullet-headed insanity of the children of God. Religion orders the religious to indoctrinate others into their way of thinking, their version of the group mentality, forsaking all others so that only their genetic "superiority" can make it through to the next generation. Logical, Modern Rationality does not support such heinous behavior as we have the caring of those whom can not care for themselves. The breeding of different races being acceptable, etc. You only see the ignorant (religious) and the hateful turning such modern revelations to the dirt.
You're making a false generalization of all religion. You have to separate fascist-like forms of religions and non coercive peaceful one. And this depends on the teachings of every religions and their different interpretations.
(April 5, 2010 at 12:09 pm)TheMultiverseTheory Wrote: I can not dehumanize what was already dehumanized. People can change [their mind and adopt the particular truth which I think is obvious], and some can't. It is my own, personal opinion, that those which can not, should not be allowed to affect our world. I'd suggest shipping them off to another planet so they may be happy on their own, but it's really quite a complicated series of dialogues to delve deeper into this.I added the bold part.
A nice example of intolerance which could be said by any religious fundamentalist asking that people adopt what he thinks is obvious (his God's word).
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