(December 15, 2008 at 12:29 am)rjh Wrote: Wait a second, what exactly were the atributes of this fruit? If it granted the knowledge of good and bad then how were they supposed to know what they were doing was wrong in the first place and if thats all it did then how did that start the chain of events leading to people having a 90% reduction in life span. Also, since they didnt know any better before eating the fruit what was to stop then sinning? Is ignorance bliss? Just because they didnt know they were sinning meant they wern't sinning? surly there was sin before the fruit, they were just unaware of it.
The fruit didn't have atributes granting knowledge, it was a symbolic representation of God's reminder to mankind that as creator they needed his guidance and protection. The only rule they had was that they should not eat or touch the fruit but to take care of the tree.
What it really meant is that eating of the fruit was a demonstration by Adam that he would decide what was good and what was bad. We can do this without you, thanks.
It resulted in death because when God, who had given mankind the planet to do what they want, couldn't be a part of their decision. He was rejected and so could no longer give them the prtection and guidance they really needed. This resulted in a much less safe and healthy environment.
Before they ate the fruit they knew only good, had they listened to God they wouldn't have had to know bad. Death and sickness. The only sin before they did take of the fruit the only sin that had been was the angel who had been in charge of the first human couple's protection, and was later known as Satan, decieved Eve. That was the first sin. Sin means simply to miss the mark.
(December 15, 2008 at 12:29 am)rjh Wrote: Wow, im not sure what to say to that. Ive only ever seen water suspended in mid air as an optical illusion where the water is actually falling at the same speed as the camera filming it. To say that there was once a layer of water sitting atop the atmosphere just defies logic. I can debate with you hyperthetically, but it wouldnt impact the reality of the matter.
The reality being that it is immpossible for there to have been a circle of water vapor around the planet? The region above about 80 miles is over 100° F and possibly rising to 3000° F. Thermosphere. High temperature is the chief requisite for retaining a large quanity of water vapor, which is lighter than air and most gases making up the atmosphere. There is nothing impossible about what the Bible says. The water canopy was possible.
