Tourettes (water canopy thread)

[Daystar]

Well we have a different opinion here. Because what I would think is: It is the information (good or bad) on the subject, which you got, that convinced you enough so that you believed in it.

When I was younger I was raised as a non religious non militant atheist. When presented with the choice of being a Xian I rejected that because I thought Xians were nuts, delusional, hypocrites. I made a choice based upon that. I chose not to believe in God even without any real knowledge of God. Later, when I studied the Bible in order to debunk it I realized that Xians were worse than the crazy, delusion, hypocrites they obviously were, they also fucked up the real meaning of the Bible for the sake of stupid pagan myth and Santy Clause. God and the Bible was true.

Why would you suddenly think "Oh, I want to believe now! I choose to believe now!" What has choice got to do with it? You believe for a reason not because you 'want to'. Wanting to isn't a good reason. If you think it is thats because you're convinced that it is. Thats the reason, and you didn't choose that.

You choose to believe based upon what you know. Do you think belief is some supernatural phenomenon that just happens. "Oh, I didn't want to believe that but (DUH) I do! Luck of the draw, I guess."

I am not saying that one believes what one wants to believe, though that is common, I am saying that one has a choice, based upon either no knowledge or great knowledge. A desire or a rational reason but a choice nevertheless.

I don't think that you chose to think that you can choose belief, for example.
If you chose it then if you'd chose the opposite would you believe that you can't choose belief therefore not be able to choose it unless convinced otherwise? How could you choose the choose? There has to be a reason. Belief isn't just believing whatever you want. There are reasons whether bad or good. Right? If choosing to believe something is you reason for believing it then thats still a reason. And I don't believe you chose that.

You're not making any sense. Think about it. You choose.

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You know what I find so funny about this forum?
The fact that a topic about Tourettes, or something totally different than religion always ends up in a discussion about religion...

It drives me fucking crazy. I have to keep up with like 20 people coming at me constantly and keep it all together and I am sitting here thinking . . . "Was the water canopy in the Tourettes thread or the hemorrhoids thread?!"