(March 25, 2014 at 2:38 pm)truthBtold Wrote:(March 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Nope. Typical crap. Josephus was a client of the Roman Emperor. His book was an attempt to PROVE Vespasian was the messiah. Are you SURE you want to quote that. There are two references. Chapter 18 is a known forgery. Chapter 20 refers to a James, and is equivocal. Fail.
“Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works—a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.”
The oldest copy of that text is in the Museum in Milan. I've seen it. That ONE passage does not fit ith the text above it, and below it. Different handwriting. Different ink. Scholars KNOW it's an "interpolation". (A forgery by Christian monks). Josephus would have NEVER written any such thing, as it defeats the entire purpose of the book it's in. Please grow a brain. I see you're a rank beginner here.
Tacitus
Cornelius Tacitus was a Roman Historian who lived from 55-120AD. Despite the fact the clearly despised Christianity as a “mischievous superstition”, Tacitus no less confirms once again the existence of Jesus and His crucifixion on the cross, it also states Pontius Pilate as the procurator who oversaw the crucifixion again giving non-Biblical proof of Jesus’ existence as recorded in the Bible.
No. He references a Crestus, while still spelling "Christians" correctly. Proves nothing.
Bucky.. forget it theres no hope
I understand that. I post for passing guests not the idiots who are this deluded. These tools ask the SAME old (same old) questions that many have. There are perfectly reasonable answers for them all, which are not so readily available on the internet.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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