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Answering Atheism I
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RE: Answering Atheism I
(April 12, 2010 at 8:10 am)Wael El-Manzalawy Wrote: Matter may change from one form to another form, but matter doesn't come from nothing. Atheists say that there was a kind of original matter at the beginning of the universe. I will ask atheists some questions:

True, matter can change from one form to another. A solar furnace, i.e. a star does a very good job at converting simple hydrogen into helium and then, in the latter stage of its life all the way through to iron. After that, the supernova explosion that marks the end of it's life creates all the other particles in the periodic table, apart from the few extra that scientists have made.

Where does matter come from? Easy. if you'd paid any attention in your physics classes rather than having your young head beaten into submission by memorising the Qu'ran you'd have learnt all about Einstein and his famous equation, E=Mc2 which demonstrates that matter and energy are basically the same thing. Therefore we can say that all matter came from the energy unleashed by the big bang.

Now I know what you are thinking.. Where did the energy come from? Well, if at the point of the big bang all of space and time came into existence then it's obvious that the question simply makes no sense as you can't have an event before time for anything to have originated from. You may not like it and it may not fit in with our intuitive understanding of reality but there it is. As Carl Sagan said, "The Universe does not have to conform to our expectations of it!"

If you're a fan of string theory, which I am Great then we can postulate that the big bang, and probably many others in the membrane in which this Universe lives was caused by two colliding branes in hyperspace and at the points of collision you would expect to see a massive release of energy and the creation of a whole new Universe, which is of course exactly what we see.

In this case we can say where the energy came from and who's to say that the multiverse hasn't always existed in some form or another, especially if time is not the linear constant that we think it is, which of course, it isn't.

Quote:1- Can you create matter from nothing? Go to the laboratory and prove it. All you can do is to change matter from one form to another.

Yes! Matter is popping into existence all the time and then annihilating itself. This is the whole basis for Hawkins radiation that predicts the evaporation of black holes. Look it up..

Quote:2- What is the origin of this original matter?
You -atheists- will say that this original matter just existed and you will say your common comment: " Why do you believe that the God just existed and you don't believe that this original matter just existed?"

NO... We don't say that matter (or energy) has always existed. You've been talking to the wrong atheists, or, as I suspect, simply listening to other fundies who share your own personal views.

The truth is that we don't actually know what happened before the big bang or even if such a thing even existed, but then, neither do you. Personally, I would put my 'faith' into the relentless and tireless work of the many scientists and other geniuses throughout history who have pushed our knowledge to extraordinary heights and whos only motivation was and is a burning passion for discovering the truth about our Universe rather than an archaic dusty book from the 7th century full of superstition and mythology.

Quote:My answer is simple and clear:
Matter can't come from nothing. So this original matter can't come from nothing because this is against all the rules of matter. But the God is supernatural. So, we can't apply the rules of matter to the God. So, if we say that the original matter just existed, it is against the rules of matter because matter can't come from nothing. But if we say that the God just exists, we are not in clash with the rules of matter because the God is metaphysical.

Stick to theology and stay away from science..
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Answering Atheism I - by Wael El-Manzalawy - April 12, 2010 at 8:10 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Dotard - April 12, 2010 at 8:30 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Loki_999 - April 12, 2010 at 8:52 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Darwinian - April 12, 2010 at 9:09 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Minimalist - April 12, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by chatpilot - April 12, 2010 at 11:38 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by tavarish - April 12, 2010 at 12:33 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by chatpilot - April 12, 2010 at 12:36 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Loki_999 - April 12, 2010 at 1:31 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Violet - April 12, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by tavarish - April 12, 2010 at 2:55 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Violet - April 12, 2010 at 10:45 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Loki_999 - April 13, 2010 at 2:34 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Welsh cake - April 12, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Rev. Rye - April 12, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by LEDO - April 12, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Autumnlicious - April 12, 2010 at 7:41 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by AtheistPhil - April 12, 2010 at 11:01 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Darwinian - April 12, 2010 at 11:11 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by AtheistPhil - April 12, 2010 at 11:14 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Tiberius - April 12, 2010 at 11:28 pm
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Violet - April 13, 2010 at 4:54 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by padraic - April 13, 2010 at 5:12 am
RE: Answering Atheism I - by Loki_999 - April 13, 2010 at 7:43 am

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