(April 12, 2010 at 1:31 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: @Darwinian - one of the problems i find is one of the same problems Dawkins pointed out with God. If there is a God, what was before God, or who created God.... if God existed forever (as the theists believe) then what was he doing for all those eternities before creating the universe?And why would this be considered differently than the Big Bang?
Quote:Same goes for the history of the universe (regardless of what caused it - eg: string theory). Its either a case of it has always existed (the expansion/contraction model) or the big bang, in which case, what caused the big bang... which really has to be something outside/beyond/parallel to the universe which then brings us to the regression problem. What exists beyond our universe (if anything) is going to be a real headache for us to figure out beyond the theorizing stage.And why could God not always have existed?
Quote:Same with going downscale. We think maybe we have the smallest particles figured out with quarks etc, but there is always the potential for there to be something smaller that we can't detect.Sure... but we have nothing to say about it... because we can't detect it anyhow.
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