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My case for an Idealistic Monism
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RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism
(March 31, 2014 at 10:28 am)bennyboy Wrote:


I think you have put the proverbial cart before the horse.

Idealism fails in its anthropocentricity, it attempts to approximate the disinterested pursuit of a determinate fixed truth, that what we perceive is constructed by the mind. But this is to ignore that mind itself is a product of what it is attempting to construct.

To break this recursion we need to recognise that mind is determined by problems rather than solving them, that reason is shaped by the irrational, formed by particular relationships among irrational factors. Our minds are not born of the rules and laws we attribute to the physical and metaphysical universe, but are carved out of the delirium and drift that lies beneath.

Scientific discipline compounds this issue by citing observation as a tool to generate quantitative theories based on fixed points of reference. What scientific endeavour discreetly papers over is that every observed event is distinct and unique, that ultimately everything is 'subjective and unshareable' and by gathering events that display a lack of difference and presenting them as generalised theories it gives us a false sense of objectivity, an objectivity that can never be established, again because it is fundamentally recursive in nature.

I cannot and never will be able to share your experience of a chocolate bar but I can carve an approximation of your experience out of the lack of difference with my own experiences.

Indeed, if we examine modern physics we can dispense with any notion that there is anything but nothing, there is no objective reality, just random patterns in the void.

There are no properties of mind that exist independently of this chaos, just our very human need to seek order that will ultimately delude us into believing we can understand the universe by applying thought to the chaos from which it emerges.

MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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My case for an Idealistic Monism - by bennyboy - March 31, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Faith No More - March 31, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by bennyboy - March 31, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Whateverist - March 31, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Angrboda - March 31, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 6:08 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by ManMachine - March 31, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Angrboda - March 31, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by ManMachine - March 31, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by bennyboy - March 31, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by ManMachine - April 1, 2014 at 4:03 am
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Angrboda - April 1, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by bennyboy - April 1, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by archangle - March 31, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Neo-Scholastic - March 31, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: My case for an Idealistic Monism - by Whateverist - April 1, 2014 at 9:01 pm

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