RE: Epicurus riddle.
April 13, 2010 at 10:28 am
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2010 at 10:36 am by Edwardo Piet.)
@ the OP
Opinions on Epicurus' riddle? FUCKING AWESOME. One of my favourite pieces of writing of all time.
EvF
If God is truly both omnipotent and omnibenevolent then he would give us the freedom to do as we wish ('free will') and yet he would have created it so that we were intrinsically good and so never would want to 'Do Evil'. We'd be free... we just wouldn't want to 'do Evil'.
Furthermore, if God was truly both omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then he would never have created any 'natural evil' in the sense of environmental disasters and all the suffering that goes on in the wild with other organisms as well as ourselves.
Furthermore,
Where is your evidence for 'Free Will'? It is obvious that 'Will' exists, our'selves' = our 'Will's respectively. But I am yet to know of anyone who can provide me of any evidence whatsoever of the existence of specifically 'free will.' How is it free? If we could control our Wills, if we could control our 'selves', then that would be our 'will'/'self' control its self. So our self would have to have a self.... and so on, infinite regress. How can the Will possibly be free, how can 'we' have control over our 'selves', if 'we' are[/i[ our 'self'. The Will is necessarily the very part of us that DOES the controlling, so how on earth can [i]it be free? Please do provide evidence.
EvF
Opinions on Epicurus' riddle? FUCKING AWESOME. One of my favourite pieces of writing of all time.
EvF
(April 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm)The Piper Wrote: God enables us to have free will, meaning that some will do evil and some won't. It's our choice, God is allowing us to determine our fate and he is very patient. Evil will be dealt with in his time.
If God is truly both omnipotent and omnibenevolent then he would give us the freedom to do as we wish ('free will') and yet he would have created it so that we were intrinsically good and so never would want to 'Do Evil'. We'd be free... we just wouldn't want to 'do Evil'.
Furthermore, if God was truly both omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then he would never have created any 'natural evil' in the sense of environmental disasters and all the suffering that goes on in the wild with other organisms as well as ourselves.
Furthermore,
Where is your evidence for 'Free Will'? It is obvious that 'Will' exists, our'selves' = our 'Will's respectively. But I am yet to know of anyone who can provide me of any evidence whatsoever of the existence of specifically 'free will.' How is it free? If we could control our Wills, if we could control our 'selves', then that would be our 'will'/'self' control its self. So our self would have to have a self.... and so on, infinite regress. How can the Will possibly be free, how can 'we' have control over our 'selves', if 'we' are[/i[ our 'self'. The Will is necessarily the very part of us that DOES the controlling, so how on earth can [i]it be free? Please do provide evidence.
EvF


