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Faith Vs Knowledge
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RE: Faith Vs Knowledge
(April 1, 2014 at 5:26 am)max-greece Wrote: I'm struggling with something and I wanted to get others opinions on this.

It appears to me that we have various theists on the forum, along with innumerable famous theists / Christian Apologists etc. that claim to know, for certain, that God exists, that he's their God and so on and so forth.

My understanding is that God is supposed to withhold that knowledge - which is the point of his demanding faith.

If they do have that knowledge or certainty doesn't that make God a liar?

At the same time how can they demand or even request others to follow their path on the basis of faith if they have the luxury of knowledge and are not reliant on belief alone?

Anyone?

I have a question:

Why can't they have the traits wrong? This withholding thing. I would say that if there was a god he/she would withhold nothing.

In fact ... he would show us as fast as we can.

I would also add. our lack of understanding with science is not evidence of no god. It is however good enough to say "your traits of god are probably wrong."

It has little to do with faith.
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Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 1, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Esquilax - April 1, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Little Rik - April 1, 2014 at 5:49 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 1, 2014 at 11:51 am
Faith Vs Knowledge - by Rampant.A.I. - April 1, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Tonus - April 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Minimalist - April 1, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Napoléon - April 1, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Paraselene - April 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 1, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 1, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 1, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Paraselene - April 1, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 1, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Paraselene - April 1, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 2, 2014 at 1:19 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by MJ the Skeptical - April 4, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 1, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 2, 2014 at 3:20 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Severan - April 2, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 7:52 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 3, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Tonus - April 4, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Faith Vs Knowledge - by Rampant.A.I. - April 3, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 3, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 3, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 3, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 4, 2014 at 12:44 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 4, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by truthBtold - April 4, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by MJ the Skeptical - April 4, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 4, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Tonus - April 8, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 5, 2014 at 1:58 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 9, 2014 at 9:29 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Alex K - April 5, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Clueless Morgan - April 8, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 5, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 5, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 8, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 9, 2014 at 1:26 pm

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