(April 7, 2014 at 9:08 am)alpha male Wrote:(April 6, 2014 at 11:06 pm)Cobra Commander Wrote: So I'm in this one religious argument on another site, and my opponent just made me lol. I won't say any names, but his argument, revised by me for grammar, is as follows:That's fine, but your own ranks are guilty of the same. When a discussion on god's attributes isn't going well for the atheist, other atheists will jump in and ask for proof that god exists, as if his attributes can't be discussed absent such proof.
"I just hate the ones that say God is a dick, douche, or tyrant, because how can he be any of those things if he doesn't exist?"
My response was simple.
"How can Darth Vader be a tyrant if he doesn't exist?"
Fictional characters have attributes just as much as real people. Just because Darth Vader doesn't exist, doesn't mean he isn't a tyrant. And, just because God doesn't exist, doesn't mean he isn't a douche.
Well, yeah, we can talk about the attributes of unicorns too, but that doesn't mean they actually exist!
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
