RE: Who throws the dice for you?
April 11, 2014 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2014 at 5:03 pm by Heywood.)
(April 11, 2014 at 4:36 pm)Fromper Wrote: So what you're saying is that you can't wrap your ahead around the randomness of quantum mechanics, so you insert an unnecessary extra factor (God) into it, to make it easier for you to accept. The real question is why you think randomness has to have a cause.
Negative Fromper.
I believed in God before I thought about these things. It is a case observation conforming to a previous theistic world view. It is more like the confirmation of a prediction.
Why do I think randomness has a cause? In my experience randomness is not something objective. Randomness is just ignorance.
(April 11, 2014 at 4:53 pm)Cato Wrote: You seem to be calling our inability to properly account for all causes to an event randomness. I can accept this definition for the sake of clarity, but you seem hellbent on inserting your God here instead of simply acknowledging our ignorance. Until you provide evidence for your God you are just compounding the problem; not simplifying it or explaining it.
This is nothing more than another God of the gaps argument
Negative Cato, this isn't a case of having an inability to properly account for all causes of a random event. Bell's theorem suggests that at some level randomness is uncaused by local physical things.
That leaves you 2 options.
1. The universe is super deterministic.
2. Randomness is caused by non-local-non physical things.