RE: Who throws the dice for you?
April 12, 2014 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2014 at 11:40 am by Heywood.)
(April 12, 2014 at 10:48 am)Bob the Dugong Deity Wrote:(April 11, 2014 at 8:25 am)Heywood Wrote: It would seem then that randomness is really just a function of ignorance.
I'm not sure what's meant by a function of ignorance, I might give a nod to an expression of ignorance.
It means we our ignorant of the details of an event that causes a particular outcome. It means that randomness is not objective but subjective.
Suppose you are asked to draw a card from a deck of 52 cards. What is the probability you will draw the ace of spades? You compute 1 in 52. I on the other hand have knowledge that you do not. I happen to know that the deck contains 52 identical cards and they are all the ace of spades. I can compute the probability of you drawing the ace of spades....it is 1. When you do draw the ace of spades...you will chalk it up to happenstance.
Neither of our conclusions about the probability of you drawing an ace of spades or how the results came to be is necessarily wrong. We arrive at different but valid conclusions because you are ignorant of some details that I am not. What appears random to us may not appear random to an agent who has more knowledge then us.
(April 12, 2014 at 11:23 am)tor Wrote:(April 12, 2014 at 11:19 am)Heywood Wrote: Who rolls the dice for God?
There is no point in asking that question until you ascertain if God's reality requires randomness. The existence of randomness in God's reality isn't necessary for Him to generate randomness in our world. Our reality requires randomness and it is fair and pertinent question to ask where it comes from.
So is god determined?
The question is not important to us. But if you insist that I answer I will oblige.
I don't know if God is determined or not.