RE: GOD IS NOT DEAD
April 16, 2014 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: April 16, 2014 at 5:45 pm by Revelation777.)
(April 16, 2014 at 4:03 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(April 15, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I hope you are doing well today.
Actually, I can't believe I let this pass for so long: what the hell, man?
Why do you keep just dodging points like this? You started a whole thread on this damn movie, telling us what a convincing case for god you think it presents, why are you so averse to telling us anything about it? What are you doing here, by just refusing to take part in a conversation that you yourself started?
I also think I had a pretty good point about whether or not you'd be okay with science books changing if they changed toward your predrawn conclusions, but like all the good points raised in your presence, it ultimately went to waste when you responded with a trite single sentence. Why should we bother responding to you if you can't even bother to sound interested?
More importantly, I could have sworn we had a discussion about rule one before, and the importance of actually engaging with each other here. This is getting a little obscene.
The original post was to suggest to people to go see the movie, not to debate it. In actuality, it would be nice if someone took up my offer and saw if for free and then debated some points - reading reviews do not count for me. Unfortunately, where you live you can't view it. However, if you lived her in the USA I bet you would of taken my offer.
Secondly, I don't mean to just give one sentence replies but there have been a lot of posts to respond to. I also work and have a wife and child to attend to. I would like to post some arguments after this Sunday to get some real good discussion going.
(April 15, 2014 at 12:47 pm)Brian37 Wrote:Revelation777 Wrote:I am pro-science but not when others assert their views to make theories as if they are facts.
I have to laugh when any believer of any religion anywhere in the world says this. Are believers capable of accepting science? Yes, but only up and until science points away from their myth and invisible sky parent.
If you accept that there is no such theory as "Thor theory of lightening" or "Ra theory of the sun" or "Allah based gravity" then saying you are pro science is fucking hollow to me, as much as when they do it, because science does not favor any religion or god claim.
If you think you are the only person with a sky parent claim who has ever tried to argue that science matches their book or god claim, you are a fool. I have run into Muslims and Jews, all sorts of sects of Christians, and even recently a Hindu.
Our species has been around for half a million years. If evolution, or any damned science required human concocted fairy tales to understand, only one religion would exist and only one religion would be universal.
Computers, cars, medicine, telescopes, cell phones, were all a result of scientific method. Our understanding of entropy and galaxies or atoms do not require one to be a Buddhist, or Scientologist, or Hindu, anymore that it would require one to believe in Poseidon to understand how a hurricane forms.
I am sorry someone sold you an invisible sky parent story. I am sorry that you buy a book written in antiquity and scientific ignorance. Do not blame us for your baggage or blame us for something we had no hand in writing.
You may accept some science, but you do not like it when it points away from your personal fantasy.
True science doesn't conflict with the Bible. It is the scientists who are hellbent on trying to disprove God by creating more than Science has ever discovered. Apparently, this board is chock full of people who do just that.
(April 16, 2014 at 10:07 am)Tonus Wrote:(April 15, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Since the Tower of Babel, God is not impressed with man's accomplishments.That would be the time that god was concerned that men would reach heaven if they built a moderately tall building, at which point nothing would be impossible for them. Terrified at the thought of those dirty little humans running around in heaven, god quickly confused their languages to scatter them, then moved heaven into a metaphysical realm and replaced the dome over the Earth with an actual sky. It was god's "man behind the curtain" moment, and it shook his confidence like you wouldn't believe!
Interesting how some take some Bible truth and then add things the text never said while uglify it with errant and critical opinions.
(April 16, 2014 at 10:24 am)Tonus Wrote:(April 16, 2014 at 10:17 am)Confused Ape Wrote: I've read the plot synopsis. A story about a Christian who loses his faith and finds it again(...)...while bleeding to death after being hit by a car driven by a priest, who exults over the victim's deathbed confession. "Sorry about crushing your rib cage and causing you a bloody and painful death, but at least you admitted that I was right all along!"
*May not be 100% accurate synopsis
I don't remember that in the movie and I wasn't distracted by popcorn.
(April 16, 2014 at 10:13 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: If we want to read the OT liberally like the NT Evangelists did, we might take the Tower of Babble as just symbolic prophecy for the Christian faith because for whatever reason you all speak a different language.
I think I understand what you are saying. Why do you dislike Christians?