That makes it seems so la di da natural though. Oh well, the fluoride is a natural byproduct, and it is all sparkly and magical. If I am not mistaken, and I am known to be, most of the fluoride we put in the water is a byproduct from scrubbing out the smokestacks from aluminum smelting. Fluoridic acid. Again I may be wrong, but let us allow that most of the fluoride in the water is not natural and safe, but was listed as toxic waste and was very expensive to clean up before they figured they could sell it to the cities as a water additive.
"As for your other points, Eilonnwy didn't claim victory; she asked for studies rather than websites."
Ah, but as I pointed out, there are no double bind repeatable studies to show the harmful effects of long tern micro dosage of fluoridic acid. So we have to move on to round two, personal opinion and ideas. She can ask for something that doesn't exist, but when it is not produced cannot claim much.
"Yes...that should be obvious. If you have a toxicity level of 1g, and you ingest 2/1000th of that (assuming we are drinking 2 litres of water a day), then the amount you have ingested isn't toxic."
Ah, it isn't poisonous, yes. It won't kill you today. But it may well be toxic in the sense that it causes harm. The argument needs to be made for it efficacy, not it's minute amount. I bet you that you can't drink 9 liters in 15 minutes.
"There are levels at which all substances should be digested. We need fat to store energy; if you eat too little, you'll get ill. If you eat too much, you'll get ill. If you eat your balanced amount, you will be fine. Same with water, same with fluoride."
I don't know. That makes it seem so safe. So normal. Water, yes. Trans fatty acids holding our brain tissue together, yes. Fluoride, not as much. Saying that there is such a thing as a balanced amount of fluoride makes fluoride seem necessary to survival, like air and water. Is there a level of anti-freeze that is safe, that represents a balance? If there was anti-freeze added to the water, could I justify it with the reason that it is a minuscule amount, and such a tiny amount of anti-freeze can not do any harm. And what if you said "drinking anti-freeze is bad for me, why did you put it in the water, for what benefit?" and I replied "Silly man, there is so little it cannot be bad for you." And you say "Ummmm, the efficacy, the reason?" and I say "No, you don't understand, the amount is so small..."
-Pip
"As for your other points, Eilonnwy didn't claim victory; she asked for studies rather than websites."
Ah, but as I pointed out, there are no double bind repeatable studies to show the harmful effects of long tern micro dosage of fluoridic acid. So we have to move on to round two, personal opinion and ideas. She can ask for something that doesn't exist, but when it is not produced cannot claim much.
"Yes...that should be obvious. If you have a toxicity level of 1g, and you ingest 2/1000th of that (assuming we are drinking 2 litres of water a day), then the amount you have ingested isn't toxic."
Ah, it isn't poisonous, yes. It won't kill you today. But it may well be toxic in the sense that it causes harm. The argument needs to be made for it efficacy, not it's minute amount. I bet you that you can't drink 9 liters in 15 minutes.
"There are levels at which all substances should be digested. We need fat to store energy; if you eat too little, you'll get ill. If you eat too much, you'll get ill. If you eat your balanced amount, you will be fine. Same with water, same with fluoride."
I don't know. That makes it seem so safe. So normal. Water, yes. Trans fatty acids holding our brain tissue together, yes. Fluoride, not as much. Saying that there is such a thing as a balanced amount of fluoride makes fluoride seem necessary to survival, like air and water. Is there a level of anti-freeze that is safe, that represents a balance? If there was anti-freeze added to the water, could I justify it with the reason that it is a minuscule amount, and such a tiny amount of anti-freeze can not do any harm. And what if you said "drinking anti-freeze is bad for me, why did you put it in the water, for what benefit?" and I replied "Silly man, there is so little it cannot be bad for you." And you say "Ummmm, the efficacy, the reason?" and I say "No, you don't understand, the amount is so small..."
-Pip
