RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 21, 2014 at 11:05 am
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2014 at 12:19 pm by SteelCurtain.)
Oh, boy. I am not surprised that this is your first in a series of devastating posts, Rev.
Here's the problem with posts like that. I'll admit that I'm making an assumption here, correct me if I'm wrong. Are you really open to any evidence? Are you really open to seeing how flawed that view is? I don't think you are. I think your confirmation bias is so strong that you will eat up anything anyone tells you that agrees with your view, while not stopping to do any research to see if that 'evidence' jibes with reality.
So here's my attempt to raise your consciousness.
There are many, many, many transitional fossils. You can see them in museums, you can see them in books, you can see them in peer reviewed, scholarly articles by evolutionary biologists. It is undeniable that transitional forms do exist.
It seems that your biggest issue is a false expectation of what should be there. This is a common tactic by creationists to confuse people who wouldn't know any better. They say things like "if evolution were true we should see hairy eskimos" and people think, "well, yeah!" and don't stop to critically think about that statement. So why wouldn't we expect to see unbidden volumes of fossils in the strata? Well, for one, fossilization is an extremely rare event. Why would you expect anything different? Here is an explanation of how fossils are formed. See the bibliography for sources. Second, the type of animal being fossilized makes a huge difference in fossilization; animals with minerally exoskeletons will more easily fossilize than those with soft ones. Lastly, sometimes events need to occur, and animals have to be present for those fossilization events. Mudslides, floods (resist the temptation, please), ice falls/freezes, even transportation to a sedimentary area (falling in a river or swamp).
Essentially, you and other creationists are deliberately creating your own false expectations and pointing to the fact that reality doesn't meet them. It is the equivalent of me saying that since Jesus doesn't wake me up softly each morning by appearing in the flesh in my bedroom, and singing to me and telling me he loves me, that Jesus doesn't exist. You wouldn't even expect that as a Christian, would you? So how much bearing does that expectation have on the existence/nonexistence of Jesus?
Here's the problem with posts like that. I'll admit that I'm making an assumption here, correct me if I'm wrong. Are you really open to any evidence? Are you really open to seeing how flawed that view is? I don't think you are. I think your confirmation bias is so strong that you will eat up anything anyone tells you that agrees with your view, while not stopping to do any research to see if that 'evidence' jibes with reality.
So here's my attempt to raise your consciousness.
There are many, many, many transitional fossils. You can see them in museums, you can see them in books, you can see them in peer reviewed, scholarly articles by evolutionary biologists. It is undeniable that transitional forms do exist.
It seems that your biggest issue is a false expectation of what should be there. This is a common tactic by creationists to confuse people who wouldn't know any better. They say things like "if evolution were true we should see hairy eskimos" and people think, "well, yeah!" and don't stop to critically think about that statement. So why wouldn't we expect to see unbidden volumes of fossils in the strata? Well, for one, fossilization is an extremely rare event. Why would you expect anything different? Here is an explanation of how fossils are formed. See the bibliography for sources. Second, the type of animal being fossilized makes a huge difference in fossilization; animals with minerally exoskeletons will more easily fossilize than those with soft ones. Lastly, sometimes events need to occur, and animals have to be present for those fossilization events. Mudslides, floods (resist the temptation, please), ice falls/freezes, even transportation to a sedimentary area (falling in a river or swamp).
Essentially, you and other creationists are deliberately creating your own false expectations and pointing to the fact that reality doesn't meet them. It is the equivalent of me saying that since Jesus doesn't wake me up softly each morning by appearing in the flesh in my bedroom, and singing to me and telling me he loves me, that Jesus doesn't exist. You wouldn't even expect that as a Christian, would you? So how much bearing does that expectation have on the existence/nonexistence of Jesus?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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