(April 23, 2014 at 10:20 am)Heywood Wrote:(April 22, 2014 at 11:03 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: If the event in question couldn't possibly have occurred, then no being could have caused it to occur no matter its intelligence. If the event was possible—which must be the case if the event did occur—then you can apply the anthropic principle. The theistic explanation cannot be held in higher esteem unless they provide another argument for theism or provide arguments against all multiverse types (see Brian Greene's 9 types).
My laptop came into existence. The coming into existence of my laptop would not occur unless there was an intellect.
No it did not. Your laptop was built from components of previously existing matter. This is not at all similar to "coming into being." Even wishing your laptop into existence from nothing within the existing would not be the same as "coming into being."
The beginning of the universe and of all matter, time and space is in no way comparable to assembling a laptop from existing material parts.
(April 23, 2014 at 10:20 am)Heywood Wrote: In this forum there are numerous examples of discussions between intellects. These discussion are events that could not exist without intellects. Some events are dependent on intellects and cannot be explained otherwise.
False dichotomy. There is no reason to explain events in the absence of intellect to perceive events.
