RE: Anthropic Principle vs Goddidit
April 23, 2014 at 3:38 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2014 at 3:43 pm by Coffee Jesus.)
Ryantology, you mean more parsimonious, not less.
Chad accused the multiverse theory of being like a blank check that lets you write anything in, but that's more aptly fits his theistic hypothesis. #irony
If I have a cloud of positively and negatively charged gases, it's possible that a molecule could get shot out of the cloud at 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilometers per second, because it's possible that it could repeatedly get repeled by same-charge molecules while always staying between opposite-charged molecules such that their attractive forces roughly balance eachother out. This super fact molecule could land anywhere.
Statistically, this is very unlikely, but it can happen thanks to the randomization of natural forces.
As long as the process is repetitive, you can do the calculation.
Chad accused the multiverse theory of being like a blank check that lets you write anything in, but that's more aptly fits his theistic hypothesis. #irony
(April 23, 2014 at 1:49 pm)Heywood Wrote:Randomization. So many things are randomized. Meteorite impacts. Techtonic plate cracks. Canyons. Wandering microbes. Electron or photon wave contact with objects. Molecules being deflected by oppositely charged molecules. Electron spin. Wind. Photon emission.(April 23, 2014 at 1:30 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: The formation of laptops is permitted under the law of physics, otherwise no intelligent or unintelligent being would ever make them.
I agree that the formation of laptops is permitted under the laws of physics....but how do you know they can come into existence in worlds that are devoid of intelligent beings?
If I have a cloud of positively and negatively charged gases, it's possible that a molecule could get shot out of the cloud at 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilometers per second, because it's possible that it could repeatedly get repeled by same-charge molecules while always staying between opposite-charged molecules such that their attractive forces roughly balance eachother out. This super fact molecule could land anywhere.
Statistically, this is very unlikely, but it can happen thanks to the randomization of natural forces.
(April 23, 2014 at 3:37 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The outliers you dismiss are exactly the problem. Without some prior constraints infinite permutations of infinite potential can produce anything at all. There can be no such thing as an average universe among an infinite number of such. No ratio between finite numbers and infinity can be made. What is the average of 0 and infinity?
As long as the process is repetitive, you can do the calculation.