RE: Anthropic Principle vs Goddidit
April 23, 2014 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2014 at 7:09 pm by Coffee Jesus.)
(April 23, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Heywood Wrote:(April 23, 2014 at 3:38 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: Randomization. So many things are randomized. Meteorite impacts. Techtonic plate cracks. Canyons. Wandering microbes. Electron or photon wave contact with objects. Molecules being deflected by oppositely charged molecules. Electron spin. Wind. Photon emission.
If I have a cloud of positively and negatively charged gases, it's possible that a molecule could get shot out of the cloud at 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilometers per second, because it's possible that it could repeatedly get repeled by same-charge molecules while always staying between opposite-charged molecules such that their attractive forces roughly balance eachother out. This super fact molecule could land anywhere.
Statistically, this is very unlikely, but it can happen thanks to the randomization of natural forces.
What does a multiverse, quantum mechanics, and your powerful randomization get us?
Imagine a universe just like ours. In that universe is a man that some call Tim.
Now Tim wishes to explode a bush. So he points at the bush. In most universe nothing happens....But in a subset of universes....as a matter of pure happenstance, a quantum fluctuation happens at the same time and the bush is transformed into an exploding bush. Tim tries this again....and in most universes....nothing happens the second time he tries it...but in a subset of universes....as a matter of happenstance...a quantum fluctuation happens that transform the second bush into an exploding bush. There are going to be some universes that whenever Tim tries to cast a spell....as a matter of happenstance the effect of the spell he was casting comes to realization.
A problem I have with an infinite number of universes....is it leads to ridiculous worlds in which magic and sorcery exist.
Nice attempt at the reductio ad absurdum, but how do you know there aren't any universes in which this occurs? How do you know the conclusion is false?
(April 23, 2014 at 2:56 pm)Heywood Wrote:Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ ' Wrote: An infinite number of universes is less parsimonious than a single creator god because we can demonstrate, objectively, the existence of exactly one universe and zero creator gods.
An infinite number of universes requires a mechanism for generating those universes. How is this universe generating mechanism less parsimonious than God?
It isn't necessarily less parsimonious, but it has more evidence.
