(April 23, 2014 at 8:29 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:(April 23, 2014 at 8:13 pm)Heywood Wrote: I didn't say a universe generating mechanism needed a cause. I said a universe generating mechanism needs to exist if multiverse models are true.
You committed a straw man fallacy.
I was addressing your assertion that universes must have a causative mechanism. If god doesn't need one, there's no reason to think a universe does.
The reason the universe does is because as per the OP it is contingent and not fundamental.