(April 25, 2014 at 10:32 am)Confused Ape Wrote: How can you be 100% certain that the first Christians were real spiritualists? And don't say you know because you were one of those first Christians in a past life.
The system of teaching follow the same pattern.
Religions pop up out of spirituality.
Christ never teach the mass or the rosary so why today
those who say that believe in Christ follow rituals that Christ never teach?
Christ was teaching spirituality not rituals.
The same with Buddha.
He was teaching yoga meditation but these days how many so called
Buddhist practice meditation?
You go in the Buddhist temple and you will see people praying Buddha with some incense in the hands.
The same with Hinduists.
Lord Shiva and Lord Krisna were teaching meditation
but these day most of the followers chant old mantras
or try the nirvana with artificial means.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/hypertextopia/pu...nasi-4.jpg
Everything change in this physical world.
I am sure that even the spirituality that i follow will change
in few generation and one more religion will pop up.
(April 25, 2014 at 10:23 am)Riketto Wrote: Of course after reaching high stage of consciousness everything come clear and you understand that reincarnation is there as you would understand that 2+2=4.
Quote:But where's the proof that this is anything more than a belief?
You can find young kids already skilled in something.
Nobody ever teach them that skill so where they got it from?
When i was in Fiji years ago i saw a 8 years old boy who could tell what was wrong with the engine of a car just by listen to the engine noise.
Beethoven and other great musicians displayed musical talents at an early age.
How could it be when they didn't spend years of learning at a conservatory?
In life you get something only if you work very hard so it is obvious that they developed those skills in past lives.
Quote:We obviously posted at the same time because you didn't reply to the PS part of my last post. I'll add it to this post to save you hunting back for it.
PS: I've just reread your opening post. There are many people working to stop deforestation and other damage to the planet but environmental concerns don't depend on meditating and believing in reincarnation. A lot of damage is due to unsustainable palm oil production. Palm oil is used in vegan and vegetarian food.
Is Palm Oil Vegan?
Quote:When I first heard about the ethical (and environmental) issues with palm oil I admit that I felt a bit annoyed - it's derived from plants and some of the most beloved vegan companies use it, so how could there be anything wrong with it?! Honestly, I was coming from a place of frustrated ignorance. Thus I started collecting information via conversations with friends and companies, but remained skeptical. At Expo East 2012 I spoke with a few businesses about their use of palm oil, and it was an uncomfortable topic - some were working on finding alternatives, others were irked by the issue. Six months later at Expo West 2013 I noticed several brands proudly displaying the words "palm oil free" on their packaging - things were changing fast! Meanwhile, VegNews had published a phenomenal article on the topic.
It is obvious that we can not change the rot by doing meditation
that is why P.R.Sarkar gave Prout which is the way to live without damage
mother nature and humanity and progress in all walk of life.
