numerical mriacle.....again

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I think anyone reading too deeply into numerology needs to get their head examined.

Listen, the Quran May or may not have an example of the golden ration within it. That is neither here nor there as the Quran is simply a text containing plagiarized material from previous books/scriptures. I don't even know what you're trying to say is occurring.

I don't know what my definition of a miracle is either as it's subjective term. But I know numerology wouldn't cut it in any reality.

So, what are you getting at? What's your reasoning for believing that some interpretation of numbers that lead to other numbers equates to a miracle?

What made you de convert from Islam to hold no religious beliefs?

The miracle is, that the odds of finding similiar straight forward patterns in a book are so low that it would be completly absurd to assume that this happened by chance.

Why?

Oh sorry to answer your question, no, I'm not impressed. The variables that could have been tampered with are so high as to make any observation meaningless. I don't know the agenda or the methodology, I just have a mishmash of numbers thrown at the screen with a conclusion plus an analysis of 'amazing!'. Doesn't really impress me, if I'm honest.

Thank you for your answer I really appreciate it.

Let it put me this way, i have studied islamic material a long long time before i decided to leave it. At least two years. And I feel quite comfortable to say, that I am probably one of the people on this earth who know the most reasons why not to believe in Islam.
It is from my perspective morally wrong in many instances, inhuman, homophobic and so on.
Objectivly speaking it has historical errors, plagarised fairy tales and scientific errors in it.
The whole concept of a god who punishes and creates life is completly absurd to me.
The islamic history and how muhammed raise to power is very much the opposite of what you would expect from a "prophet of god".
These are just a few very summarized reasons why i left islam.

The Problem is, that i am very precise in what i am doing and i want to understand everything, every single detail. And if something does not make sense to me then my world is in trouble. So the fact that this stuff occurs does not make any sense to me what so ever. It is easy to say that "patterns occur in books" , and it is true that they do. And for almost all of them i think that they are entirly plausible to occur, because their likelihood is quite high.

But I do not agree that there are 1000 of different possible patterns, i dont think so. There is not this almost infinite number of chances that impropable things occur, at least I dont see them.

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How many combinations of numbers, assigned by counting collections of characters, can be combined into sets and then dividend against one another that don't result in the golden ratio? This is always ignored.

elaborate please

thank you