(April 26, 2014 at 3:19 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Ah, I see. You seem to be one of those who thinks that market forces solves all social ills. I can understand because I used to think the same way. How old are you? 16? 18? You'll learn when you get out in the real world.
Market forces didn't end segregation. That took government intervention.
Market forces didn't fight sexual harassment in the workplace. That requires government litigation.
Market forces didn't change "buyer beware" or establish consumer protection. That required government regulation.
...as does worker safety...
...as does environmental protection...
...as does the maintenance of infrastructure...
...and so on...
Operating a business in the public domain requires operating it in a responsible and non-discriminatory manner. That's not "slavery".
You know what is slavery?
Slavery.
That's where you don't get paid for your services. That's where don't work in a safe environment. That's where your master gets to regularly rape your wife and your sons and daughters are sold down the river and you never see them again. That's where you get terrorized, beaten and threatened with death if your services don't satisfy. So knock off the hyperbole that boo hoo, you can't keep the fags out of your bakery. Don't make light of our nation's second greatest shame, second only to the massive genocide of the native population, by claiming that the government stopping you from cramming your beliefs down the throats of others is somehow comparable.
And you'll thank us when Christianity does become the minority to "no religion" and it will remain illegal for an atheist majority to discriminate against you for your goofy beliefs.
I'm probably quite a bit older than you DP.....and somewhat wiser. Let me correct some of the mistakes you an others have made.
First, majorities do not oppress minorities. Groups in power oppress the groups without power. The white minority oppressed the black majority for years in South Africa....but you are probably too young to remember that. I can give you numerous other examples. If you want to stop oppression, don't let power get concentrated. How do you stop power from getting concentrated? Empower the individual...let them have the power.
Second, it was government intervention that caused segregation in the first place. If you knew your history, you would know that African americans were doing a fine job digging themselves out of poverty after slavery. It took government actions like Jim Crow laws and wage regulations to shove them off the economic ladder.
Third, Slavery is absolutely being forced to do something against your will. If you do not want to call it slavery, then call it extortion. No matter what you call it, it isn't pretty. Forcing a baker to provide services to a person he doesn't wish to provide is absolutely slavery. It is economic rape.....It is sad that you advocate such a system.
