Argument #1: Transitional Fossils

[Revelation777]

Are you telling me that if God could be proved you would be more than happy to believe in Him? Or, if evidence showed evolution is wrong that you would change your original beliefs?

Yes, if there were strong evidence that there really is some sort of deity -- I would have no choice but to accept that the deity exists. But, there would have to be real world evidence for it.

If, all of a sudden we started seeing evidence, quickly mounting preponderance of evidence that evolution does not occur in biological organism, then yes, we drop evolution and go with whatever the evidence points to.

There is no room for dogmatism in science. That is why creationism is not and never will be science. It is based on a dogmatic insistence that a book has magical powers, such that, it's always right no matter what. They ignore, twist, exaggerate, fabricate, or otherwise fuck with the evidence to fit their pre-conceived dogma. This is exactly the opposite of science. That is why we have safeguards to eliminate researcher bias. Scientists strive only for honesty and accuracy in discovering new information. There is no dogma, political, or religious agenda.

Then we can look at the bias of creationists. Take, for example, that piece of shit propaganda movie, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. I did see it and I wrote a rathe lengthy review on it. Very dishonest. For one -- it's not a documentary, it's propaganda. Like it or not -- that's just obvious.

When analyzing propaganda, the first question one should do is identify the target audience. "Who is this for?" In the case of Expelled, it is clearly not intended for me. In order to find this movie anything other than a repulsive piece of propaganda, one would have to be a right-wing conservative, xtian, ignorant, scientifically illiterate, and gullible.

If you do some actual research into that movie you will find that all of the cases of "persecution" in the film were grossly misrepresented. Interviews with scientists were craftily and dishonestly edited. And most of all -- Adolf Hitler didn't have jack shit to do with Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution. The movie is a pack of lies.

I guess that you have decided that you would rather be a creationist than be honest.

1. If anything is pro intelligent design some posters here judge it as deceitful, bias, slanted, a piece of rubbish.
2. If Richard Dawkins passes gas it is held as doctrine.
3. If I suggest a movie some of you guys ferret through the internet looking for negative reviews
4. I get a pro-creation perspective and I am using unreliable unqualified sources
5. Wake up folks, Jews and Christians historically have been the most persecuted people ever.
6. Hitler tried to push forward eugenics which was developed by Francis Galton - his half cousin was Darwin. Surprise, surprise - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
7. Ben Stein is an absolutely brilliant man, and I don't say that because of his views.