RE: The redneck strike again.
April 27, 2014 at 4:56 am
(This post was last modified: April 27, 2014 at 5:06 am by James2014.)
(April 23, 2014 at 8:37 am)Riketto Wrote:Quote:That still doesn't explain why praying Franciscan nuns don't believe in reincarnation even though their brains behave in the same way as the brains of meditating Tibetan Buddhists.
You didn't take in consideration the fact that not all the meditation are the same.
You can meditate on some external thing or you can meditate within.
In both cases the brain may use the same energy so a test made on the brain only indicate that the brain
follow similar pattern but a physical test can not find out where the consciousness is directed to.
Franciscan nuns focus on something external like Christ while Buddhists
focus on the spirit within ( OM i am that entity-I am God ).
What are you talking about? Not only do Buddhists not believe that there is a god, they don't believe that there is a self either. Indeed according to buddhism god is just a deluded being born into a higher realm of existence (para 42 http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/....bodh.html) Following on from this, the cosmology of Buddhism vs hinduism is very different, with the former denying any creation myth.
If meditation can allow us to see into some ultimate truth about reality, why does your view differ from the buddhists? Why do the views of Buddhism vs Hinduism differ so much?
In the earliest Buddhists writing, the Buddha also ate meat that was offered to him, although he forbade monks from killing for meat and eating meat killed specifically for them, the buddha was never recorded as saying lay people should not eat it. Indeed by eating meat they offered he is given his tacit approval. In my opinion this is wrong. Again if meditation can provide ultimate knowledge about something, why did he do something which is wrong?
Additionally the buddhist idea of rebirth (which does not involve a soul, but rather a stream of consciousness that lacks self) is very different from the hindu one of reincarnation which is a soul with some element of permenance that transmittigates.
So meditation has not stopped different religions from have very divergent views about god, existence, the soul , and it did not stop the buddha from behaving immorally. Why then do you assume that anything you experience in meditation can actually provide factual answers to such questions?
(April 27, 2014 at 3:27 am)Riketto Wrote: .
Take the acupuncture.
Few thousand years ago when this technique was invented people had a different nervous system and that technique was working then.
These days this technique it is not very effective as our nervous system is quite different.
How could you possibly know this? In what way was it different? How/why did it change? Why do you make such exaggerate claims that are obviously nonsense?