(April 27, 2014 at 3:27 am)Riketto Wrote: Spirituality and altered states of consciousness due to artificial means
have little in common
I wouldn't know which one came first.
In that case you can't claim that all religions have popped up out of spirituality.
(April 27, 2014 at 3:27 am)Riketto Wrote: In tantric meditation that Shiva taught you need a mantra or sound that goes on when you inhale and exhale while concentrating on a particular cakra.
So when did Shiva first teach tantric meditation and who did he teach it to?
World's oldest ritual discovered. Worshipped the python 70,000 years ago
Quote:The Tsodilo Hills are still a sacred place for the San, who call them the “Mountains of the Gods” and the “Rock that Whispers”. San guides who lead archaeologists to the hills must first check with their deity to ascertain whether they are welcome there.
The python is one of the San’s most important animals. According to their creation myth, mankind descended from the python and the ancient, arid streambeds around the hills are said to have been created by the python as it circled the hills in its ceaseless search for water.
The python cave
Sheila Coulson’s find shows that people from the area had a specific ritual location associated with the python. The ritual was held in a little cave on the northern side of the Tsodilo Hills. The cave itself is so secluded and access to it is so difficult that it was not even discovered by archaeologists until the 1990s. The first archaeologists at the site noticed two paintings on one side of the cave and a rock with a large number of indentations in it on the other side.
When Coulson entered the cave this summer with her three master’s students, it struck them that the mysterious rock resembled the head of a huge python. On the six meter long by two meter tall rock, they found three-to-four hundred indentations that could only have been man-made.
“You could see the mouth and eyes of the snake. It looked like a real python. The play of sunlight over the indentations gave them the appearance of snake skin. At night, the firelight gave one the feeling that the snake was actually moving.” said Sheila Coulson to the University of Oslo’s research magazine Apollon.
Anyway, back to the opening post.
(February 26, 2014 at 9:33 am)Riketto Wrote: Man was never build up to be omnivore as we can see from the different body (teeth, jaw, length of stomach and different acids to digest food) so by going against nature it is clear that damages will occur.
Omnivorous Species
Quote:Various mammals are omnivorous in the wild, such as the Hominidae (which includes humans, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas)
I know chimps hunt for meat but I didn't know about orangutans and gorillas so went to google.
Meat-eating by adult female Sumatran orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus abelii).
Quote:Abstract
Information about meat-eating behavior by wild orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus) is scant. The first article about such a case dates from 1981. Since 1989, seven incidents of adult female Sumatran orangutans eating slow lorises (Nycticebus coucang) have been witnessed. Three females from two study sites were involved. In three cases the females were seen catching the prey. There are too few cases to conclude whether this behavior is typically female.
Nobody is sure about gorilas. FirstProof Gorillas Eat Monkeys? Mammal DNA in gorilla feces hints the big apes might eat meat after all
There could be other explanations for how the DNA got there because they've never been seen to hunt for meat in the wild.
"Loving" Bonobos Seen Killing, Eating Other Primates
Quote:A new study reveals that some bonobos—one of humankind's closest genetic relatives—hunt and eat other primates.
Groups of the endangered chimpanzee subspecies were observed stalking, chasing, and killing monkeys they later consumed.
Scientists have long known from stool samples that some bonobos eat rodents and small antelopes in their natural forest habitats in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), but many researchers thought this was the extent of their hunting activities.
Gottfried Hohmann and Martin Surbeck, at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, thought differently.
"We saw that their relations with neighboring monkeys were frequently hostile and found a black mangabey finger in bonobo feces last year," Hohmann said. (See a photo of a mangabey.)
"We did not know if the mangabey had been killed by another predator and then scavenged by the bonobo or if the bonobo had killed the mangabey itself, but this raised our suspicions."
The researchers went on to observe bonobos attacking, killing, and eating monkeys. Their findings were published Monday in the journal Current Biology.
Chimpanzees
Quote:Chimpanzees are our closest living relatives, sharing more than 98 percent of our genetic blueprint. Humans and chimps are also thought to share a common ancestor who lived some four to eight million years ago.
Chimps are generally fruit and plant eaters, but they also consume insects, eggs, and meat, including carrion. They have a tremendously varied diet that includes hundreds of known foods.
This is an in-depth analysis of chimp hunting - I'm linking to Page 4 because of an interesting bit of information.
Chimpanzee Hunting Behaviour And Human Evolution
Quote:The australopithecines also differed from modern chimpanzees in having relatively small canine teeth. But again, this does not mean that they did not eat meat. Although large canines are often taken to be an indicator of a meaty diet, they are more likely to be used as weapons by males in the competition for mates. Chimpanzees do not use their canines to capture adult colobus monkeys; rather they tend to grab the animals and flail them to death.
Finally an article about Meat in the human diet: an anthropological perspective.
I checked the author out and found that he's one of the authors in a book about diet and anthropology published by the Cambridge University Press. Evolving Human Nutrition - Implications for Public Health - Part of Cambridge Studies in Biological and Evolutionary Anthropology
All this suggests that it's best no to be dogmatic about what humans are supposed to eat.



