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SATAN!
RE: SATAN!
(April 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm)aufis Wrote: @Loki_999
God is concern of jacob
as you can see in Job 1:12(NIV)
12 The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger."
Then Satan went out from the presence of the LORD.
It is written "But on the man himself do not lay a finger".
on other version(CEV)
" 12The LORD replied, "All right, Satan, do what you want with anything that belongs to him, but don't harm Job."
it is written "but don't harm job"

If someone destroyed your house, killed your family, your pets, and your livelihood, all as a direct result of someone hedging a bet, would you consider that harming you?

(April 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm)aufis Wrote: but Job is so faithful to God that he surpasses those trials that Satan gaved Him.

Isn't that nice.

(April 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm)aufis Wrote: written in Job 42:12(NIV)
12The LORD now blessed Job more than ever; he gave him fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand pair of oxen, and a thousand donkeys.

He blessed Jacob "more than ever"

So the ends justify the means. If I punch a newborn baby square in the head, but then give the mother a new car because she didn't press charges, does that make me a moral person?

(April 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm)aufis Wrote: evidence/explanation for this is James 1:2-4(NIV)
2Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. 4Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
prove by James 1:12(NIV)
12Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him.

God only let Satan to experiment him. he did not gave Satan the whole life of Job. If it is God who wants job to suffer then what is James1:2-12?

God allow to satan to let Satan know that there are people who do not just fear God and shuns evil because of their lifestyle but because of their faith.

God allows Job to suffer, despite already knowing that he would stay faithful, and knowing that such a deal with Satan would come up, YET HE DOES IT ANYWAY. You're completely missing the point that God literally took a dump on this guy's life just to prove a point to Satan. Did Satan learn anything? Did he convert and repent? No. He said "Oh, ok" and went on his way to do more bad shit, all the while Job has to live with the knowledge that God doesn't give a shit about life when there are points to prove about how powerful he is and who loves him the most. Yea, he got more cattle and shit. I'm going to start tazing stray cats, and the ones who still purr when they see me after a week will get all the cat food they can eat.
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SATAN! - by Shinylight - April 10, 2010 at 8:18 am
RE: SATAN! - by Dotard - April 10, 2010 at 8:29 am
RE: SATAN! - by Shinylight - April 10, 2010 at 8:38 am
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 10, 2010 at 10:33 am
RE: SATAN! - by Shinylight - April 10, 2010 at 10:42 am
RE: SATAN! - by amw79 - April 10, 2010 at 3:51 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Eilonnwy - April 10, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Tiberius - April 10, 2010 at 1:55 pm
RE: SATAN! - by KichigaiNeko - April 11, 2010 at 10:37 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Pippy - April 10, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: SATAN! - by LEDO - April 10, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: SATAN! - by binny - April 11, 2010 at 11:42 am
RE: SATAN! - by Pippy - April 11, 2010 at 11:57 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 11, 2010 at 1:11 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Autumnlicious - April 11, 2010 at 5:46 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 6:31 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Autumnlicious - April 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Dotard - April 11, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 6:41 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 6:44 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 6:46 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 6:48 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Dotard - April 11, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 6:54 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Darwinian - April 11, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 6:56 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 6:58 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Dotard - April 11, 2010 at 7:01 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 7:04 pm
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 11, 2010 at 7:03 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 7:06 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 7:04 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 7:06 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Darwinian - April 11, 2010 at 7:06 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 7:09 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 7:14 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Darwinian - April 11, 2010 at 7:18 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 7:21 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 7:22 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 7:30 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Dotard - April 11, 2010 at 7:28 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 7:29 pm
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 11, 2010 at 8:21 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 8:57 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Dotard - April 11, 2010 at 9:07 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 11, 2010 at 9:10 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 11, 2010 at 9:10 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 12, 2010 at 5:52 am
RE: SATAN! - by Eilonnwy - April 11, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 11, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: SATAN! - by The Piper - April 12, 2010 at 12:40 am
RE: SATAN! - by Shinylight - April 12, 2010 at 5:26 am
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 12, 2010 at 6:00 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 12, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 12, 2010 at 11:45 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 12, 2010 at 11:49 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 13, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 12, 2010 at 6:41 am
RE: SATAN! - by Disinter - April 12, 2010 at 7:32 pm
RE: SATAN! - by KichigaiNeko - April 14, 2010 at 4:30 am
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 13, 2010 at 12:39 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 13, 2010 at 8:05 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 13, 2010 at 11:42 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 14, 2010 at 7:34 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 14, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 14, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 15, 2010 at 2:07 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 15, 2010 at 12:19 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 15, 2010 at 11:40 pm
RE: SATAN! - by KichigaiNeko - April 16, 2010 at 4:53 am
RE: SATAN! - by Minimalist - April 15, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 16, 2010 at 6:22 am
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 16, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: SATAN! - by fr0d0 - April 17, 2010 at 6:29 am
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 17, 2010 at 6:59 am
RE: SATAN! - by Autumnlicious - April 17, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RE: SATAN! - by fr0d0 - April 17, 2010 at 1:13 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 17, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: SATAN! - by fr0d0 - April 17, 2010 at 5:16 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Shinylight - April 17, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: SATAN! - by tavarish - April 17, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: SATAN! - by fr0d0 - April 18, 2010 at 5:14 am
RE: SATAN! - by tavarish - April 18, 2010 at 9:45 am
RE: SATAN! - by fr0d0 - April 18, 2010 at 4:42 pm
RE: SATAN! - by chatpilot - April 17, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: SATAN! - by fr0d0 - April 17, 2010 at 7:11 pm
RE: SATAN! - by SleepingDemon - April 18, 2010 at 9:36 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 19, 2010 at 12:59 am
RE: SATAN! - by Violet - April 20, 2010 at 4:22 am
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 20, 2010 at 9:47 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Loki_999 - April 19, 2010 at 2:12 am
RE: SATAN! - by aufis - April 20, 2010 at 2:43 am
RE: SATAN! - by Loki_999 - April 20, 2010 at 3:17 am
RE: SATAN! - by aufis - April 20, 2010 at 3:44 am
RE: SATAN! - by Loki_999 - April 20, 2010 at 4:12 am
RE: SATAN! - by aufis - April 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm
RE: SATAN! - by tavarish - April 21, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RE: SATAN! - by LEDO - April 21, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: SATAN! - by Minimalist - April 21, 2010 at 8:45 pm
RE: SATAN! - by aufis - April 22, 2010 at 1:53 am
RE: SATAN! - by tavarish - April 22, 2010 at 9:22 am
RE: SATAN! - by LEDO - April 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: SATAN! - by KichigaiNeko - April 22, 2010 at 3:34 am
RE: SATAN! - by aufis - April 22, 2010 at 4:06 am
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 22, 2010 at 11:44 pm
RE: SATAN! - by tavarish - April 23, 2010 at 9:43 am
RE: SATAN! - by Godschild - April 23, 2010 at 8:24 pm
RE: SATAN! - by tavarish - April 23, 2010 at 8:43 pm
RE: SATAN! - by aufis - April 23, 2010 at 2:26 am
RE: SATAN! - by KichigaiNeko - April 23, 2010 at 6:00 am

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