RE: Argument #1: Transitional Fossils
April 28, 2014 at 12:27 pm
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2014 at 12:57 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(April 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Are you telling me that if God could be proved you would be more than happy to believe in Him?
If God were proved, it would be irrational not to believe.
(April 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Or, if evidence showed evolution is wrong that you would change your original beliefs?
If someone who accepted evolution did not change their mind upon learning evolution is wrong, that would be irrational.
(April 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Maybe we get into the worldwide flood account in a future argument?
Why does it have to be worldwide? Mesopotamia is pretty much a flood plain, it's entirely possible that the whole world the authors knew was flooded without it having to be actually global.
(April 26, 2014 at 5:30 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: So because I believe in Intelligent Design I'm an imbecile? Then President Obama is one too I guess.
The appeals to authority are more likely to make people here think you're an imbecile than believing in ID would. What the President believes is irrelevant. Intelligence doesn't make you right or wrong, being right or wrong makes you right or wrong.
(April 26, 2014 at 5:43 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: OK,,, let me say, as Jesus even warned, many would come in His name saying they were doing His Will, using His Name, and yet He will tell them when they are judged that "I NEVER KNEW YOU." So the title Christian is thrown around like the word love but to me the consistent obedience to the teaching is the best indicator to the authenticity of the label.
Have you considered the possibility that you may be mistaken and are one of the ones who think they are doing his will, using his name, but are actually working against him?
(April 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Yes, there are a lot of denominations and Jesus gave a parable of the birds nesting in the branches in predicting this would occur. If you look at all these denominations one thing is common. A governing body that has either added or taken away from the original Biblical text. The addition of man made rules which the Lord never intended. Just because someone is a true believer doesn't mean they are not capable of sin or error. I being the one exception.
There is no original Biblical text, only copies of copies of copies.
(April 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: The message is one of love and forgiveness. I hope you don't choose to be in a place of separation from the source of love, life, and grace. It is not a place He desires anyone to choose.
The message I'm hearing from you is that you can't be a good Christian unless you're a young earth creationist.
(April 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I don't disagree that evolution takes place in small but significant changes within species.
Yet you do not accept a single case of speciation, which makes me wonder why you keep saying this.
(April 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I do take exception when you say a single cell organism eventually evolved into a human being. Sorry, I don't buy that.
Every human being begins life as a single celled organism that eventually develops into a human being.
(April 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Children are more open to the truth than adults. I wish adults had child-like faith.
Children are more open to believing anything they're told than adults. The faith involved is the faith that adults will be truthful to them. Children have no special powers to tell if something is true, if anything, the opposite holds.
(April 26, 2014 at 8:23 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: It think it may be time for you to watch Ben Stein's "Expelled - No Intelligence Allowed" Very eye opening. I like the scientist who says life started on the backs of crystals. Sounds more appealing than cosmic foam or gel.
Without having seen it, I bet that scientists actually said life may have started in crystal formations.
The main thing I remember about when that 'documentary' came out is how many people who were interviewed in it squawked about how their interviews were edited to make it sound like they hold positions contrary to what they actually think. In other words, it was a quote-mine in documentary form. A lie.
(April 26, 2014 at 8:30 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: There are many Christians who are brilliant. There are scientists and college professors who believe in God and question what they were taught but are scared to share this in fear of being ostracized.
And there are many nonChristians who are brilliant. There are as many Christians who are idiots as for any other large demographic. This has nothing to do with anything you're talking about.
There's no rule says scientists and professors can't believe in God, almost half of them do. And again, this has nothing to do with anything. Most of the scientists in fields relevant to evolution who believe in God still don't believe evolution is some kind of hoax the way you do.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.