Teach me about contradictions

[paulpablo]

I'm confused.
That's twice now you have said it's a contradiction yet you voted no it's not a contradiction.

You just said " I wouldn't conclude that the person was a liar or delusional based on the contradiction"

And earlier you said it could be a contradiction.

You went from saying no it isn't, to saying it could be, to saying it is but the person making the contradiction isn't delusional. Which is fair enough but the question wasn't if the person was delusional or not.

Maybe my position can be summed up as, "Yes, it's a contradiction...so what?"

In a religious context, the point of trying to establish a contradiction is generally to challenge inerrancy. If you establish a difference between statements, you've established a contradiction, but not necessarily a contradiction which challenges inerrancy. It could be that the difference is due to different audiences, different circumstances, etc. These do not challenge inerrancy. So, it seems that you're using a broad definition of contradiction, while your interlocutors are using this more specific meaning.

Well as I said there's this verse in the quran.

Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction.

So finding a contradiction in the quran probably deserves more than a "So what?"

It's interesting that you say the Muslims I am putting this point across to have a specific meaning for what a contradiction is.

I have asked them an entirely separate question on the Islamic forum which is if this isn't a contradiction, what would a contradiction look like.

They have only responded by giving further argument to what contradictions aren't.

But I'm expecting some interesting replies.