(April 15, 2014 at 11:21 am)paulpablo Wrote: "I do not feed cats. My name is Paul. I do feed cats on a Sunday."
I want to know if this is or isn't a contradiction.
In my mind it is a contradiction.
I'm on an islamic forum right now and I've asked them why they believe god does forgive association with him if a person repents. In the quran it clearly states,
Quote:Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.
Making associations with god is what they believe all Christians do, it's also called committing shirk.
And they say it's because other verses say god forgives all sins including shirk if a person repents before they die to which I replied by asking doesn't that make it a contradiction. And they say no.
But anyway I don't want to talk about the quran verse in this thread because there's only one muslim on this forum now and the rest aren't too keen on the quran and I don't want people agreeing with me just because they don't like the quran.
So to make it fair I want you to tell me if there's a contradiction in the example that I typed down here.
I accept that maybe I'm confused with what a contradiction is but to me if someone says "I do not _____" Folllowed by a separate sentence of "I do _____ in specific circumstances" that's a contradiction. Because you can't do something in specific circumstances while not doing it at all.
The reason why I ask this is because even atheists on the Islamic forum seem to be offended by this question and are telling me I don't understand English, I want to know am I going insane? This seems like an obvious contradiction to me.
Your sentence is not an accurate representation of the argument in the Islamic text.
I do not allow people to feed cats in my life. However, as much as I don't like it I do allow people who associate with people who feed cats in my life.
Would be more accurate and would not be a contradiction. Might be a little conflicted but that's deities for ya.
MM
"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
