(April 27, 2014 at 4:56 am)jg2014 Wrote: What are you talking about? Not only do Buddhists not believe that there is a god, they don't believe that there is a self either. Indeed according to buddhism god is just a deluded being born into a higher realm of existence (para 42 http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/....bodh.html) Following on from this, the cosmology of Buddhism vs hinduism is very different, with the former denying any creation myth.
If meditation can allow us to see into some ultimate truth about reality, why does your view differ from the buddhists? Why do the views of Buddhism vs Hinduism differ so much?
1) You haven't taken in consideration one important factor.
What Buddha was saying ages ago is not necessary what
it is written in today books.
It is the same with the bible and every other book
written and rewritten countless of times with the addition
of so called truth (usually invented dogmas) or the taking away of some real truth.
2) It is quite possible that Buddha refrained from talking about God or in some cases could even let people know that there is no God.
I would have done the same if i would have to deal with certain situation.
Suppose i live in a situation in which people mind is overpower with materialistic attitudes.
What is the point in talking about something that at this stage can not
penetrate in people mind.
It is much better to start with something very very simple that people can understand.
Just imagine if i go to a party in which people smoke, drink or are affected
by drugs and i start telling them that what they do is wrong.
The result will be that i may well get bashed or if i am lucky i may only be kicked out.
It is like talking to a brick wall so it is much better to change tactic and i am sure this is what Buddha did.
The tactic is that you help someone when that one is ready to be helped.
Quote:In the earliest Buddhists writing, the Buddha also ate meat that was offered to him, although he forbade monks from killing for meat and eating meat killed specifically for them, the buddha was never recorded as saying lay people should not eat it. Indeed by eating meat they offered he is given his tacit approval. In my opinion this is wrong. Again if meditation can provide ultimate knowledge about something, why did he do something which is wrong?
Again, you got to believe what is written in books or you judge from what make sense.
To me it does not make any sense that Buddha would say that you can eat meat and at the same time say not to kill.
Quote:Additionally the buddhist idea of rebirth (which does not involve a soul, but rather a stream of consciousness that lacks self) is very different from the hindu one of reincarnation which is a soul with some element of permenance that transmittigates.
So meditation has not stopped different religions from have very divergent views about god, existence, the soul , and it did not stop the buddha from behaving immorally. Why then do you assume that anything you experience in meditation can actually provide factual answers to such questions?
I already said time and time again that the best way to understand how the system works is to practice.
If you believe what has been written in books you may well get lost in an ocean of dogmas.
That is what religion believe.
(April 27, 2014 at 3:27 am)Riketto Wrote: .
Take the acupuncture.
Few thousand years ago when this technique was invented people had a different nervous system and that technique was working then.
These days this technique it is not very effective as our nervous system is quite different.
Quote:How could you possibly know this? In what way was it different? How/why did it change? Why do you make such exaggerate claims that are obviously nonsense?
The nervous system in the humans change all the time according to
place and time in which we live.
You take a kid of today used to deal with computers and other technological things and you put him back in time 3-4 hundred years
were they use to do manual jobs that require little intellect.
He would go mad.
Also a kid from that age that would come in this age and deal with today technology would go mad as his nervous system could not deal with today way of life.
As the nervous system change also the system to deal with diseases change so what was good in the past is no longer good these days.
If we go back 2-3 thousand years when the acupuncture was invented then the difference is even more dramatic.
