(April 22, 2010 at 1:53 am)aufis Wrote: i would like to emphasize the two last sentences(or maybe one, im not good in grammar if ";" denotes two sentences)
"The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised"
its true. all things that he had(even his families) are all from God(moreover, even his life).
Only the flesh of his family died. but their souls lives forever then what is the problem for killing their flesh if even though they were killed they will live for eternity?
Let's paint this picture. Armed muggers come in tomorrow night and kill your family and burn down your house. Do you honestly see no problem with this? Would it be fine if you believed that the assailants were sent from God to test your faith? Would you honestly see NO PROBLEM with this?
(April 22, 2010 at 1:53 am)aufis Wrote: Job have faith so after the test he had more prosperous life in earth and much more in eternal life with his family, then whats the problem there?
Because those are the actions of an insane, jealous, malevolent God, not a loving one.
(April 22, 2010 at 1:53 am)aufis Wrote: "So the ends justify the means. If I punch a newborn baby square in the head, but then give the mother a new car because she didn't press charges, does that make me a moral person? " (sorry i don't know how to quote much more)
if you consider satan as a moral being then thats justifiable.
This is going by your God's example. The baby can heal, and I wasn't harming the mother directly. I give her a new car, something she was in need of for quite some time. Does that make me a bad person? Does my good deed wipe away the bad? Should it be forgotten and taken as a lesson that the ends justify the means?
(April 22, 2010 at 1:53 am)aufis Wrote: well, were speaking dignity here. if God will not make a point then it means satan was right. to prove that satan is wrong he accepted the challenge of satan.
Apparently God, like many Christians, doesn't understand how burden of proof works. This is particularly disturbing as he felt he needed to prove a point when he already knew the fucking outcome beforehand.