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numerical mriacle.....again
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again
(April 28, 2014 at 6:27 pm)thequestion Wrote: All numbers are correct, your comment implies that you find this pattern also kind of "special", i might be wrong.

he does it in front of your eyes and i also did both myself.


I watched the video. Here goes some time I'll never get back.
The strangeness I find in it may be cultural or failures in translation.
The narrator puts forward some observations about equalities of word frequency in the Koran. However, there are some disconnects between his claimed point and the examples demonstrated.
His point is that there is a list of paired antonyms and synonyms which have equal word counts. However at 1:35 this is his list;
Word 1_______Word 2______Antonym or Synonym
Angels________Demons_____Antonym
Action_________Reward_____Neither synonym or antonym
Plant__________Tree_______Sort of similar, but not synonymous
Tongue________Advice______Neither
Worried________Reassured__Sort of antonymous
Benefit_________Harm______Antonyms
Treachery______Foul________Neither
World_________Hereafter____These could be antonyms
Publicise_______Announce____Sort of similar
Disaster________Gratitude____Neither
(apologies for the formatting, I tried the [table] tag but it didn't work)

Somehow 'Jesus' and 'Adam' are supposed to be antonyms (having opposite meaning) or synonyms (having the same meaning.) I can't tell which of these they mean.

My point here is that the narrator is finding equal word counts. So what, they aren't for antonyms and synonyms as claimed. Perhaps some speaker of Arabic would like to clarify that the translations are not correct and that the narrator meant something other than what was displayed. Otherwise I see there being identical word counts for fairly arbitrary word selections. This is not remarkable.

Then there was a demonstration of how a couple of word counts were obtained using some sort of Arabic text processor. To make the numbers come out right, the narrator had to fiddle with the controls by selecting word roots rather than distinct spellings. OK, granted (though whether its differentiation of what words had the same root is nothing I could check.)
For the fourth example the narrator switched for no explicit reason to Microsoft Word. No indication was made that word root searches were being made. But the numbers came out the same so it had to be done corrrectly (didn't it?)

I agree that the calculations in the OP are simple enough to confirm. However, I did some more calculations on your dataset:
The median number of surahs is 57.5 and for ayahs is 39, These are NOT equal.
The sum of modulo 2 surah numbers and sum of modulo 2 ayah numbers are NOT equal. Same for modulo 3 through 8. Then I got bored.
The point is, why did you select an intuitively odd result and claim it miraculous when so many of these other calculations show the number sets to be unremarkable?
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 26, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Zen Badger - April 26, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 26, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 26, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 26, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Mister Agenda - April 29, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Ksa - May 9, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 26, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 26, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Cato - April 28, 2014 at 5:27 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by ManMachine - April 29, 2014 at 8:33 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 29, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by ManMachine - April 29, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 29, 2014 at 1:28 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Cato - April 26, 2014 at 10:13 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 29, 2014 at 6:45 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Faith No More - April 29, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 29, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by jesus_wept - April 28, 2014 at 3:27 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Confused Ape - April 28, 2014 at 5:32 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by sven - April 28, 2014 at 5:33 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by FreeTony - April 28, 2014 at 5:50 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 28, 2014 at 10:58 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by NoraBrimstone - April 28, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Chas - May 6, 2014 at 6:22 am
Re: numerical mriacle.....again - by NoraBrimstone - April 28, 2014 at 6:01 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by FreeTony - April 28, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 28, 2014 at 6:27 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Cato - April 28, 2014 at 7:49 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by sven - April 29, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by JuliaL - April 29, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 29, 2014 at 8:29 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Tonus - April 29, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by thequestion - April 29, 2014 at 2:13 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by pocaracas - May 4, 2014 at 5:30 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 4, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by fr0d0 - May 4, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 4, 2014 at 5:51 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by pocaracas - May 4, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by fr0d0 - May 4, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 4, 2014 at 6:27 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Cato - May 5, 2014 at 5:28 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 4, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by pocaracas - May 4, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 4, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by pocaracas - May 4, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 4, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by jesus_wept - May 5, 2014 at 4:29 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by pocaracas - May 5, 2014 at 5:03 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 5, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by jesus_wept - May 5, 2014 at 7:38 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 5, 2014 at 10:12 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 6, 2014 at 7:02 am
RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by Cato - May 6, 2014 at 4:13 pm
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RE: numerical mriacle.....again - by lordofgemini - May 8, 2014 at 11:01 am
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