The redneck strike again.

[James2014]

1) You haven't taken in consideration one important factor.
What Buddha was saying ages ago is not necessary what
it is written in today books.
It is the same with the bible and every other book
written and rewritten countless of times with the addition
of so called truth (usually invented dogmas) or the taking away of some real truth.
2) It is quite possible that Buddha refrained from talking about God or in some cases could even let people know that there is no God.
I would have done the same if i would have to deal with certain situation.
Suppose i live in a situation in which people mind is overpower with materialistic attitudes.
What is the point in talking about something that at this stage can not
penetrate in people mind.
It is much better to start with something very very simple that people can understand.
Just imagine if i go to a party in which people smoke, drink or are affected
by drugs and i start telling them that what they do is wrong.
The result will be that i may well get bashed or if i am lucky i may only be kicked out.
It is like talking to a brick wall so it is much better to change tactic and i am sure this is what Buddha did.
The tactic is that you help someone when that one is ready to be helped.

Thats true, its very unlikely to represent the words of the buddha. But if Buddists/Hindus have always practised meditation as you describe, surely then they must be able to see the truth too. Your views are just not consistent. If meditation can enable people to see the truth, why do Buddhists claim there is no god? why do many of them still eat meat? why do they believe their is no soul?

The answer is that meditation does not enable as to have special insight into any fundamental truth. Indeed going by your standard of debate it seems to make people become morons. For example in the actual debate on the opening topic of this thread, you admitted that humans in the past ate meat when they were starving. THIS makes us omnivores you idiot. A cow would never eat meat even if it was starving. Evolutionarily, if you admit that eating meat might a good thing to do if we are starving then there is an evolutionary pressure for us to be able to eat meat. Which is why we have a short colon.

We are omnivores, meditation does not make you enlightened, and you are just very deluded.

The nervous system in the humans change all the time according to
place and time in which we live.
You take a kid of today used to deal with computers and other technological things and you put him back in time 3-4 hundred years
were they use to do manual jobs that require little intellect.
He would go mad.
Also a kid from that age that would come in this age and deal with today technology would go mad as his nervous system could not deal with today way of life.
As the nervous system change also the system to deal with diseases change so what was good in the past is no longer good these days.
If we go back 2-3 thousand years when the acupuncture was invented then the difference is even more dramatic.

hock:
This is painful. Its like you have overheard some people talking about how our nervous system changes according to different environmental stimuli during our development, and then decided to use this to justify whatever beliefs you want. You say our nervous system was different, and these differences made acupuncture drastically effective. What are these changes? What genes were up/down regulated? What were the neurotransmitters involved in mediating these effects? Why did these changes make acupuncture drastically effective? You have no idea because you are speaking absolute crap.