(May 3, 2014 at 4:27 am)James2014 Wrote: What mantra?! The oldest records of buddhism include no mantras!
Meditation without a mantra is no meditation.
You can call it contemplation but not meditation.
Buddha was practicing tantric meditation which
involve a mantra.
Even Lord Shiva that live well before Buddha
teach tantric meditation so mantra meditation was
there before Buddha.
Quote:Again though, you say that religion has made meditation ineffective, it sounds to me like meditation then fails what it has set out to do, which is to allow people to see some truth. And if it could enable people to see the truth then how did the religion get started in the first place? It just does not make sense.
What does not make sense is your guessing.
Meditation lead to spirituality but spirituality
stay spirituality and get better only if you make
the effort of cultivate it.
If not this spirituality get weaker and weaker until
it disappear for good and the dogma (religions)
creep in.
You just try to grow a plant.
In the beginning you care very much so she get
everything she need.
After sometime you lose interest and stop looking
after the plant.
How you think the plant will grow?
Try to ponder your thought before you come
down with this non-sense James.
Quote:A cow is not able to run after an animal to kill it and to cut his skin in order to get to the flesh that is why she would starve.
If she could do all this then she may well eat meat rather then starve.
Quote:Exactly it cannot because it is a herbivore, we can therefore we are an omnivore. Being an omnivore does not mean that meat is the most healthiest thing for us! No where is this included in any definition of omnivorous. But we are able to eat meat, even with its bad effects, and survive. Indeed in times of scarcity, as would have been common in the past, it would have been very good for us.
What a load of garbage James.
We got the hands so we can kill
but with the hands we can also eat, drink,
build technology and so many other things.
So you are saying that we should use the hands
to do whatever we can do them?
Take the atom.
With it we can build a bomb and kill million
but with it we can also use it to create more
technology.
Are you saying that we should use the atom for both?
You got to be sick James!
hock:Quote:So you have no idea how our nervous systems are different. The alternative hypothesis to the one you suggest regarding why people believed that the earth was flat etc was because it coincided with their experience. Not because they were stupid. Indeed, how would you know the universe was not spherical without having some education in maths and geometry? Regardless the ancient Greeks did know the earth was round about 3000 years ago, so you argument is just wrong
Very few Greeks among the Greek population and among
the global population knew.
Does this means that the exception is the rule?
Quote:And lets just say it was different, why would these differences mean that acupuncture works? If they were stupid enough to believe things that are wrong, just as a flat earth, then could they also not be stupid enough to believe that sticking needles into someone somehow magically cures disease?
As the time goes the things change.
What make sense 3000 years ago these days
is outdated.
Would you carry goods on a donkey back
or would you use a van?
