RE: The redneck strike again.
May 5, 2014 at 3:25 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2014 at 3:27 pm by Confused Ape.)
New post because my previous one is long enough.
Dogs are naturally designed to eat meat but -
Hardening and Blockage of the Arteries in Dogs
Genetics plays a part where humans are concerned.
Genetic Susceptibility to Atherosclerosis
Vegans like everyone else, need Vitamin B12. I found an interesting article about this - B12 and the Vegan Diet
So where could our distant ancestors have got Vitamin B12 from without eating meat?
Gorillas actually eat insects but vegans wouldn't want to do that because they avoid all animal products and insects are animals. Did our remote ancestors eat faeces and soil? Maybe, but I'm sure vegans wouldn't want to do that either. This leaves unwashed fruit and vegetables but there's a problem in 21st century Western civilisation.
So, if our distant ancestors colonised lands where there were no insects, fruit and vegetables available during winter they couldn't visit their nearest supermarket for out of season food and the following -
As you're insisting that meat eating is going against nature I'm guessing you follow the natural diet of our remote ancestors. How many insects have you eaten today and how often do you eat soil and faeces?
After hours of googling and reading discussions on vegan forums there's only one thing certain. Vegans and vegetarians still die of something while many people who eat meat live to be old.
(May 5, 2014 at 10:00 am)Riketto Wrote: Before you come down with this garbage you should explain why the
the human beings CAN NOT deal with saturated fats, cholesterol
and toxin while omnivore animals can.
Dogs are naturally designed to eat meat but -
Hardening and Blockage of the Arteries in Dogs
Quote:Atherosclerosis is a condition in which lipids (the oily substance that is part of the cell structure), fatty materials, such as cholesterol, and calcium collect along the walls of the arteries (blood vessels that carry oxygen-enriched blood). This buildup is referred to as plaque, and over time results in loss of elasticity, and a narrowing of the lumen (the inner space) of the affected arteries.
Generally this condition is uncommon in dogs but has been reported in certain breeds, including the Doberman pinscher, poodle, miniature schnauzer, and Labrador.
Genetics plays a part where humans are concerned.
Genetic Susceptibility to Atherosclerosis
Vegans like everyone else, need Vitamin B12. I found an interesting article about this - B12 and the Vegan Diet
Quote:The association of vitamin B12 with animal foods such as fish, meat, poultry, eggs, milk and dairy products has helped create the myth that this vitamin can only be obtained from these foods and that a vegetarian or vegan diet provides a substandard amount. Consequently B12 has become a contentious issue.
So where could our distant ancestors have got Vitamin B12 from without eating meat?
Quote:While plants do not naturally contain B12, they may carry some through microbial contamination. Plant-eating primates such as the gorilla (and our human ancestors and many people in developing countries) obtain a plentiful supply of B12 from their consumption of plants due to the presence of insects and bacterial contamination of their plant foods and water. Some primates eat faeces and soil which may also provide a source of B12. When fed a sanitised diet, in a zoo for example, primates often develop B12 deficiency (2).
Gorillas actually eat insects but vegans wouldn't want to do that because they avoid all animal products and insects are animals. Did our remote ancestors eat faeces and soil? Maybe, but I'm sure vegans wouldn't want to do that either. This leaves unwashed fruit and vegetables but there's a problem in 21st century Western civilisation.
Quote:In modern society, fruit and vegetable production is far more sanitised in that fruit and vegetables for sale in supermarkets are washed in chlorine. This removes the B12-producing bacteria and so vegetarians and vegans must obtain vitamin B12 from other sources, this means fortified foods.
So, if our distant ancestors colonised lands where there were no insects, fruit and vegetables available during winter they couldn't visit their nearest supermarket for out of season food and the following -
Quote:The industrial production of vitamin B12 for the fortification of foods involves fermentation with bacteria. Large-scale production is carried out using a number of bacterial species, including for example Pseudomonas denitrificans, Propionibacterium freudenreichii and Propionibacterium shermanii. Bacterial cultures are grown in huge vats for the extraction of B12.
B12 can be obtained from many everyday food items that are fortified such as veggie burger and sausage mixes, yeast extracts, vegetables stocks, margarines, breakfast cereals and soya milks. See below for guide to how much B12 is contained in a range of these foods.
So, as the table shows, the EU recommended daily amount of B12 can be obtained for example from one slice of Meridian yeast extract on toast or one glass of B12–fortified soya milk.
(February 26, 2014 at 9:33 am)Riketto Wrote: Man was never build up to be omnivore as we can see from the different body (teeth, jaw, length of stomach and different acids to digest food) so by going against nature it is clear that damages will occur.
As you're insisting that meat eating is going against nature I'm guessing you follow the natural diet of our remote ancestors. How many insects have you eaten today and how often do you eat soil and faeces?
After hours of googling and reading discussions on vegan forums there's only one thing certain. Vegans and vegetarians still die of something while many people who eat meat live to be old.
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