RE: I believe in God: So Debate me
May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2014 at 6:12 pm by Rabb Allah.)
(May 5, 2014 at 6:22 am)Esquilax Wrote: That's begging the question,
Rampant.A.I. has been doing that all day
Quote:as your thoughts could only be evidence of the god you claim exists if you assume that god exists to cause them in the first place. Taken in a vacuum, your thoughts are evidence of thoughts.
Nope by my own logic my thoughts are a subsidiary of God Corp. Panendeism should be a default if you ask me but most people dislike the concept. It simply allocates ownership to everything including any idea that contradicts the other. If I was to say that god is omnipotent and omniscient then he should be aware of all things. So God should even be aware of an absurdity.
This actually extends the three "O"s and is far from begging the question as it actually solves it.
Why the hell do you think I am a panandeist/panentheist? Did you think I made a claim to refute myself purposefully? You seem to have a very poor understanding of theology and philosophy. While your understanding of philosophy is solid you are applying it to stereotypical models of religion which I myself enjoy refuting.
I still have to fight away this annoying conviction that many have about me "being a Muslim". Why on earth would you be so eager to fit me into a norm I reject?
You are going to have to start thinking of me as your insane brother who knows everything about you. If you can maintain that symbolic relationship then we can have a debate because I am not far removed from being an atheist honestly. You just do not know it.
Would you like me to give you a list of things I entirely reject?
(May 5, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote:(May 5, 2014 at 12:58 am)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: You asked me how life began. I answered. You are the world's worst debater it seems.
You also made a red-herring when began talking about god when the thread is about god.
The article has nothing to do with me. I am not religious and far from it. Morality, science, and metaphysics are completely irrelevant. I have the same morality as a secularist. Understand and approve of the same scientific evidences while also not holding a believe in the "soul". I am a goddamn deist so how the fuck can I reject any of these things? But now that I think of it you are not very bright .
When you wish to refute a person's claims refute the claims they actually make and the beliefs they hold. Rampant.A.I. could do similar I may add
Are you a troll? Or perhaps very bad at understanding philosophy and argumentation?
Yep, now you're making ad hominem fallacies. The thread is most definitely about God. It is entitled, "I believe in God, so debate me."
You are now making a dumb ass fallacy as you cannot tell sarcasm from literalism.