I believe in God: So Debate me
May 5, 2014 at 9:27 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2014 at 9:28 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote:(May 5, 2014 at 6:22 am)Esquilax Wrote: That's begging the question,
Rampant.A.I. has been doing that all day :D
Really? Where?
(May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote:Quote:as your thoughts could only be evidence of the god you claim exists if you assume that god exists to cause them in the first place. Taken in a vacuum, your thoughts are evidence of thoughts.
Nope by my own logic my thoughts are a subsidiary of God Corp. Panendeism should be a default if you ask me but most people dislike the concept. It simply allocates ownership to everything including any idea that contradicts the other. If I was to say that god is omnipotent and omniscient then he should be aware of all things. So God should even be aware of an absurdity.
This actually extends the three "O"s and is far from begging the question as it actually solves it.
Word salad, anyone?
You have to show your argument is valid before you can refer to it as a solution.
(May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Why the hell do you think I am a panandeist/panentheist? Did you think I made a claim to refute myself purposefully? You seem to have a very poor understanding of theology and philosophy. While your understanding of philosophy is solid you are applying it to stereotypical models of religion which I myself enjoy refuting.
Screaming incoherent gibberish and obscenities refutes nothing. You have yet to present a valid argument.
(May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: I still have to fight away this annoying conviction that many have about me "being a Muslim". Why on earth would you be so eager to fit me into a norm I reject?
Might have something to do with your ridiculous username and raving about Allah.
(May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: You are going to have to start thinking of me as your insane brother who knows everything about you. If you can maintain that symbolic relationship then we can have a debate because I am not far removed from being an atheist honestly. You just do not know it.
Maybe you should present your views in a coherent fashion.
(May 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab Wrote: Would you like me to give you a list of things I entirely reject?
(May 5, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Michael Schubert Wrote: Yep, now you're making ad hominem fallacies. The thread is most definitely about God. It is entitled, "I believe in God, so debate me."
You are now making a dumb ass fallacy as you cannot tell sarcasm from literalism.
Rev that Word Salad-Shooter into high gear!
(May 5, 2014 at 6:17 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Gentlemen, meet fr0d0's crazier brother: Shaykh al-Kabir Shair Abdulrab.
He prefers Mahmoud Mc Allah Gonna Weara Dinnetjacket.